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| roym | with the deprecation of the <vocabulary directive, did we loose the ability to pass in extra keyword arguments, or is there still a way to do this for a <utility as well? | 15:52 |
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| mexiKON | roym, right, we lost this ability | 17:26 |
| mexiKON | intentionally | 17:26 |
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| roym | mexiKON: I used to pass in a 'type' argument as a discriminator, so I could reuse the same code for very similar vocabularies. Am I right in assuming that there is no way now to do this? (ie: that I need sa separate vocabulary factory for each vocabulary). | 17:37 |
| mexiKON | yup. you can still reuse the code, though. | 17:37 |
| roym | agreed - just that there is now a profusion (slight exaggeration :) of vocabulary decls. | 17:38 |
| roym | fine by me overall... though. | 17:39 |
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| roym | With each release of trunk, is any of the example code kept up to date? buddydemo? zope book? | 17:48 |
| mexiKON | buddydemo yes | 17:49 |
| roym | ah! thanks. | 17:49 |
| mexiKON | i don't even know if the zope book was kept up to date with 3.1 | 17:49 |
| roym | is there any work in progress on the new version of your book? | 17:49 |
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| J1m | In the off chance that anyone here is interesred, I'm mention that senra and I are about to do some brainstorming on ZEO network refactoring on #zodb-dev. :) | 18:01 |
| mexiKON | roym, yes | 18:03 |
| roym | mexiKON: I'll be happy to review any content you have (if you're so inclined). | 18:05 |
| mexiKON | thanks. i already got a team, though | 18:05 |
| roym | ok. do you plan to publish any drafts, or will I have to wait till the book comes out. | 18:06 |
| mexiKON | no drafts. i'm not allowed to do that | 18:10 |
| roym | I know it could be a while, but do you have a rough ETA in mind? | 18:11 |
| mexiKON | 3rd quarter this year hopefully | 18:11 |
| mexiKON | u.s. perhaps a bit later | 18:11 |
| mexiKON | hmm, actually, it'll be 4th quarter most likely | 18:12 |
| roym | wouldn't I be able to order directly from Springer (I'm in the u.s) | 18:12 |
| roym | rather than wait for a u.s release, that is. | 18:13 |
| mexiKON | right. but it's printed over here and springer-ny usually gets the shipment 1 month later | 18:13 |
| mexiKON | orders directly from springer to a u.s. address will always be dealt with by springer-ny | 18:14 |
| roym | ok. thanks. | 18:15 |
| roym | on a different note - would anyone care to comment on the 'state' of sqlos? My (naiive) impression is that it has a number of rough spots, and is difficult to set up (I have a about 12 tables, with very tight RI constraints). On the other hand, it would solve my CRUD issues very nicely - I would like to hear impressions from anyone who has used it for a reasonable sized project. | 18:18 |
| mexiKON | roym, ask jinty on #z3-fve | 18:20 |
| mexiKON | i mean #z3-base | 18:21 |
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| PopSatory | Hello all | 18:27 |
| PopSatory | I cannot start my Zope3 (I get a message error). Could someone help me out please ? many thanks ! | 18:28 |
| roym | PopSatory: I'm willing to take a stab - how experienced are you w/z3 | 18:29 |
| PopSatory | thanks; I'll mp you :) | 18:30 |
| PopSatory | roym: did you get my private message ? | 18:34 |
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| roym | PopSatory: no - I have a fairly basic emacs IRC client - if you want to email, use roymath@yahoo.com. | 18:35 |
| PopSatory | you mind if I post my details here ? | 18:35 |
| roym | I don't care. Since there is no separate newbie channel, fire away. | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | okay | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> well I played a bit with Zope 2.9 | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> I'm a bit new to all this | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> I have downloaded and run the Zope 3.2.0 exe (I'm on XP home) | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> I made an instance using the mkzopeinstance.bat | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> then I ran runzope.bat. That's where it bugs | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> Here's the last lines I get in the IDLE Py window when I run runzope : | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> File "C:\Program Files\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\app\appsetup\bootstrap.py", line 60, in ensureUtility | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> sm = root_folder.getSiteManager() | 18:36 |
| PopSatory | <PopSatory> AttributeError: 'Application' object has no attribute 'getSiteManager' | 18:36 |
| mexiKON | PopSatory, 'Application' object? are you using a zope2-zodb with zope3? | 18:38 |
| PopSatory | er.......... good question :-s How can I check ? | 18:38 |
| mexiKON | i'm asking you whether you used your old Data.fs... | 18:39 |
| PopSatory | this is a brand fresh installation of Z3. I removed the Z2 one. | 18:40 |
| mexiKON | delete Data.fs and try again | 18:40 |
| PopSatory | okay, in which folder can I find it ? | 18:40 |
| mexiKON | in your instance's 'var' directory | 18:40 |
| mexiKON | or in the root of a checkout | 18:40 |
| mexiKON | depending on where you start zope from | 18:41 |
| PopSatory | indeed there are several files named like that. I delete them all ? | 18:41 |
| mexiKON | sure. if there's no valuable data in there | 18:41 |
| PopSatory | no nothing for sure | 18:41 |
| mexiKON | good. rm Data.fs* | 18:41 |
| PopSatory | okay, I'm trying again... running runzope.bat | 18:43 |
| PopSatory | HURRAY !!!!!!! thank you very much indeed !!!! | 18:46 |
| PopSatory | it works :D | 18:46 |
| PopSatory | I'll keep this channel in my bookmarks :) | 18:46 |
| mexiKON | looks like you made the zope 3 checkout without cleanign up some of the left overs from zope 2 | 18:46 |
| PopSatory | well... I used the same folder for my Zope Instance, thinking that it would be overwritten... seems not. | 18:47 |
| mexiKON | no, things aren't overwritten | 18:48 |
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| PopSatory | apart from the Zope3 Developer's Handbook, with other book(s) would you recommend for a Zope-newbee ? | 18:48 |
| mexiKON | http://worldcookery.com | 18:48 |
| PopSatory | thanks again. | 18:49 |
| roym | PopSatory: Also look at the buddydemo code that ships w/the release. It is kept up to date (I just learnt that today). | 18:49 |
| PopSatory | I'll get that book. | 18:49 |
| PopSatory | okay I'll have a look at that too | 18:50 |
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| PopSatory | well I'll "dive into Zope3" tonight. Thank you all again, byebye ! | 19:04 |
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| godfryd | #worldchat | 23:31 |
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