| oferw | mabye even later tonight | 00:00 |
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| efrerich | oferw: I know the problem with a lot of messages. You have to work with Zope 3. And then you understand messages and can translate them. | 00:04 |
| oferw | efrerich: yes I did the simple values and will try to test it, this is the only way... | 00:05 |
| efrerich | yes | 00:05 |
| oferw | and it is still a lot of work all this tranlsation | 00:05 |
| oferw | not possible to do it in one day | 00:05 |
| efrerich | oh yes | 00:05 |
| oferw | or two days | 00:05 |
| oferw | so every weekend a bit more ;-) | 00:05 |
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| oferw | I just like to see it after the translation is over | 00:06 |
| efrerich | enjoy the translation! | 00:06 |
| oferw | it is very nice to see the hebrew working in the system | 00:06 |
| oferw | efrerich: no, I enjoy after it when I see it working | 00:06 |
| efrerich | that's right | 00:07 |
| srichter | oferw: it will be very interesting to have some feedback from right-to-left languages | 00:07 |
| oferw | srichter: I will install z3 tonight or tommorow and you will have first feedback | 00:08 |
| oferw | I am also very intersted to see it working | 00:08 |
| srichter | I wonder whether our i18n support should reach to resources too | 00:08 |
| srichter | so that you can change style sheets and images based on your language | 00:08 |
| oferw | srichter: with plone we did many hours to fix the css for right to left | 00:09 |
| oferw | there is css just for right to left | 00:09 |
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| oferw | efrerich: I uploaded the file but it wrote that it takes time | 00:15 |
| oferw | Translation files waiting to be imported 1 → 75 of 14439 results | 00:15 |
| efrerich | oferw: I mean that is not a problem. srichter will tell us when he will build release beta 2. I assume it takes a day to get all translations imported, downloaded and put them in the Zope repository. | 00:21 |
| oferw | efrerich: when is the plan for next release? | 00:21 |
| efrerich | As I said srichter will tell us. | 00:21 |
| srichter | I think we will not have another beta for a week | 00:22 |
| srichter | maybe 10 days | 00:22 |
| srichter | we really need a bug day first | 00:22 |
| srichter | if nobody fixes bugs, there is no reason for a release | 00:22 |
| oferw | and I need translatation day | 00:22 |
| oferw | you can do hebrew version release | 00:23 |
| oferw | :) | 00:23 |
| srichter | btw, I don't mind having a translation beta release | 00:23 |
| efrerich | srichter: I said on the I18n-list the translations for the stable release should be ready at May 27th | 00:24 |
| srichter | cool | 00:26 |
| efrerich | srichter: so if there are changes in the pot-file I need this pot-file for launchpad at May 24th :-) | 00:29 |
| srichter | ok | 00:32 |
| srichter | I think the chance is slim that this will happen | 00:33 |
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| efrerich | srichter: zope.formlib has its own i18n-domain 'zope.formlib'. agroszer and I discussed to change this to 'zope'. But this I assume is not possible because the 'zope'-messages go into zope.app. | 00:47 |
| efrerich | srichter: So I assume I have to create a new project in launchpad for zope.formlib. | 00:48 |
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| efrerich | srichter: So the translations for zope.formlib are not ready in May. | 00:50 |
| srichter | efrerich: ok | 00:50 |
| srichter | we really have to think about this issue a lot | 00:50 |
| efrerich | yes | 00:50 |
| oferw | srichter: I want to publish article about z3 here in hebrew | 00:51 |
| oferw | with the next release | 00:51 |
| srichter | Cool! | 00:51 |
| oferw | already talked with the magazine editor and he is waiting for it | 00:51 |
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| oferw | the only problem is that I still don't know too much about z3 to write full article | 00:51 |
| oferw | mabye we can do kind of interview with developers? | 00:52 |
| srichter | that would be great! | 00:52 |
| srichter | I planned to do this for a long time | 00:52 |
| oferw | so I will write the qustions and send you by email? | 00:52 |
| srichter | to do interviews with people using Zope 3 in production | 00:52 |
| oferw | yes | 00:52 |
| srichter | sure | 00:52 |
| oferw | so later we can publish it in hebrew and english | 00:53 |
| oferw | I want to show what z3 for people who don't know anything about it | 00:53 |
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| oferw | srichter: how many qustions you had in mine? | 00:59 |
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| srichter | oferw: I dunno; check out some other interviews, like the ones from KDE | 01:11 |
| oferw | ok i did long time ago interview about plone with reflab | 01:12 |
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| oferw | efrerich: here? | 23:37 |
| oferw | efrerich: I have z3 working but not sure how to test the hebrew file | 23:38 |
| philiKON | oferw, copy the hebrew zope.po file to checkout/of/Zope3/src/zope/app/locales/he/LC_MESSAGES | 23:39 |
| philiKON | compile it to hebrew.mo with: | 23:39 |
| philiKON | msgfmt -o zope.mo zope.po | 23:39 |
| philiKON | (of course, i meant zope.mo, not hebrew.mo) | 23:39 |
| philiKON | then, restart zope :) | 23:39 |
| oferw | not sure i understand but i will give it a try | 23:40 |
| oferw | I installed it on windows beacuse had problems on the linux | 23:41 |
| philiKON | aha. well, you need zope 3.3 | 23:41 |
| philiKON | because you probably translated the zope 3.3 version | 23:41 |
| philiKON | of course, you can try it on zope 3.2 | 23:41 |
| oferw | :( | 23:41 |
| oferw | so what to do | 23:41 |
| oferw | ? | 23:41 |
| philiKON | should still work for the most part | 23:41 |
| philiKON | ok | 23:41 |
| philiKON | you need gettext | 23:41 |
| oferw | I still see one value in hebre | 23:42 |
| philiKON | http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/ | 23:42 |
| oferw | hebrew | 23:42 |
| oferw | next to the location - it write one value in hebrew | 23:42 |
| philiKON | ? | 23:42 |
| philiKON | anyways | 23:42 |
| philiKON | 1. get gettext | 23:42 |
| philiKON | 2. compile the zope.po catalog to zope.mo with this command: | 23:43 |
| philiKON | msgfmt -o zope.mo zope.po | 23:43 |
| philiKON | 3. copy zope.po and zope.mo to c:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\zope\app\locales\he\LC_MESSAGES | 23:43 |
| philiKON | (i think that this is the correct path) | 23:43 |
| philiKON | 4. restart zope | 23:43 |
| oferw | philiKON: thank | 23:44 |
| oferw | I am downloading get text | 23:44 |
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| philiKON | zope should compile the gettext catalogs automatically when starting up, really. I hope somebody does this eventually. PTS has had this functionality for years now... | 23:45 |
| oferw | there are few version to get text which one of them to download or this is no metter? | 23:47 |
| oferw | http://mirrors.usc.edu/pub/gnu/gettext/ | 23:47 |
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| philiKON | oferw, just get a windows version | 23:48 |
| oferw | ok | 23:50 |
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| oferw | philiKON: installed the software | 23:56 |
| oferw | what dir I need to be when writing msgfmt -o zope.mo zope.po | 23:56 |
| oferw | now the name of the hebrew file is he.po | 23:57 |
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