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einshi08:10
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einsromanofski morning09:07
einsanybody using zalchemy?09:07
romanofskihey eins - how are you this morning?09:07
einsromanofski as usual in monday mornings :) can monday be any good? :}09:08
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romanofs1ieins: i'd say no ;)09:14
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einsand my coworker has just deleted his modifications to source code he didn't commit to repository09:24
einsit's on ext3 :(((09:25
romanofskieek!09:25
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daHi, I have a naieve question regarding utilities.09:49
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daTo build a vocabulary from a folder-type object I have "utility = getUtility(ILookupFolder, 'exrate')"09:50
dain the code. -- This works fine when I register the folder with the name 'exrate'09:50
daHowever, If I use getUtility(ILookupFolder), it can't find the registered folder. Should it be this way?09:51
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einsanybody uses zalchemy?11:57
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J1mTheuni: ayt?16:29
Theuniyupp16:29
J1mRe issue 67516:30
J1mI think that the evolution script is overly agressive/16:30
J1mI don't really see a need to unregister the group folder.16:31
J1mI see no harm in letting paus continue to use the group folders as utilities.16:31
TheuniMight be. At least it goes to pretty great lengths trying to achieve this.16:31
TheuniHaven't looked at it from this perspective yet.16:32
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tlotzehi16:33
J1mbrb16:34
Theunisure16:34
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J1mback16:38
J1mSo I'm inclined to fix this by gutting the evolve script.16:38
TheuniWill those group folders stay around as objects in the future?16:39
J1mSure16:39
J1mThere is still use for group folders.16:39
J1mThey are not normally registered as utilities, although they still can be.16:40
J1mNow pretty much any object can be registered as a utility.16:40
J1mand the pau will be willing to use it if it finds it.16:40
J1mBefore I do anything though, I'm going to talk to gary who write the evolution script.16:41
J1mwrote16:41
J1mUnfortunately, I won't see him until next week.16:41
TheuniAlright.16:43
TheuniWe'd like to migrate our application before end of August. So that's still time left.16:44
TheuniZope 3.3 is so much faster.16:44
tlotzeAny thoughts on issue 676?16:47
J1mnot yet16:49
tlotzek16:51
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faassenhey J1m17:02
SteveAfaassen: do you have those notes on "grok" somewhere?17:03
J1mhey faassen17:03
faassenSteveA: I have been spending a bit of time extending them.17:05
faassenSteveA: the new version we started writing up while it was up on the beamer, right?17:05
SteveAyes17:05
faassenSteveA: I'm not ready to go public with it yet but I'd be happy to send you my current version in a mail.17:06
faassenSteveA: want me to?17:06
SteveAplease do17:06
SteveAI was trying to remember some of the things we discussed at EP17:06
faassenI'd be happy to get your input.17:06
SteveAabout explicitly including pts from a directory, and having "before" methods17:06
faassenthat's both in there.17:06
faassenI've been extending the text, but it needs lots more work.17:06
faassenwhat's the preferred email addy you'd like me to use?17:07
SteveAsteve -at- canonical.com17:08
faassenon its way.17:10
SteveAta17:11
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eugeniois there someone?19:00
eugeniois there someone?19:00
mgedminmaybe19:00
eugeniohello how are you?19:00
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Theunidepends19:03
Aiste:)19:03
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Theuni;)19:04
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algaNow I see what you mean by 'maybe' :)19:04
mgedminmy xhcat crashed :/19:04
Theunihehe19:05
Theuninow i'm scared for myself19:05
eugenioHI SOMEONE CAN HELP MY ABOUT PLONE.....?19:05
eugenioIS THERE SOME APPLICATION /TOOL TO IMPORT DATABASE CONTENTS IN PLONE ?19:05
Aisteeugenio: it is not nice to shout19:05
eugeniook19:05
Aisteand this is not the plone channel19:05
Aistego to #plone19:05
Aisteand ask there19:05
eugeniook aiste thank you19:06
Aisteyou are welcome19:06
TheuniAiste:  you are my public relations master!19:06
Aisteyeah right :)19:06
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regebroHmmm. How does things work with persistent event subscribers in Zope3?20:53
J1mThey should work pretty much like persistent ones.  Note that there is no UI to actually create them, so we don't actually have any.20:56
regebroHi J1m!20:56
regebroWell, is there a persistent stprage for persistent subscribers somewhere, or do I create that a well?20:57
TheuniJ1m:  thanks for looking into the migration issues!21:03
J1mTheuni: yw. How is 574 comming?21:04
TheuniNot at all :/. I was stuck, Philipp asked me to check it into a branch, he wanted to take a look at it. I didn't see him change anything though.21:04
TheuniI'm still stuck.21:04
J1mregebro: you can use the site-manager's adapters to register event subscribers persistently from python.21:05
TheuniI was hunting lots of side-effects from the solution that partially didn't make sense to me and gave me a bad feeling about the solutin.21:05
Theuni+o21:05
regebroOK, thanks, Jim I'll look at that.21:05
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