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| MJ | adaption question: | 14:15 |
| MJ | I have a generic interface IFoo | 14:15 |
| MJ | and a specific interface IBar(IFoo) | 14:15 |
| MJ | I also have IFooSpam an IBarSpam(IFooSpam) interfaces (the latter being specific) | 14:16 |
| MJ | and I have adapters: FooSpamAdapter and BarSpamAdapter | 14:16 |
| MJ | the first adapts IFoo to IFooSpam, the latter IBar to IBarSpam | 14:17 |
| MJ | Now, I want to adapt an object implementing IFoo to IFooSpam | 14:17 |
| MJ | But, when that code is handed an IBar implementing object, I want to get back the more specific adapter | 14:17 |
| MJ | so: if IFoo.implementedBy(obj): IFooSpam(obj) | 14:18 |
| MJ | and that should give me BarSpam for objects implementing IBar. | 14:18 |
| MJ | Possible? Currently I'll get the FooSpam adapter | 14:18 |
| SteveA | if you ask for IFooSpam(obj) | 14:23 |
| SteveA | then the machinery will favour you getting an IFooSpam adapter rather than an IBarSpam adapter | 14:23 |
| SteveA | if that is also available | 14:23 |
| MJ | Yes | 14:23 |
| MJ | Exactly | 14:23 |
| SteveA | beacause it is what you asked for | 14:23 |
| SteveA | otherwise, it would be gratuitously giving you a more specialized thing than you asked for | 14:24 |
| MJ | Yes, but there may be an arbitrary number of specifics | 14:24 |
| MJ | So, I want to know if there are more specific adapters | 14:24 |
| MJ | I can't get a list here. | 14:24 |
| * MJ will have to rethink this, it seems. | 14:24 | |
| MJ | The adapter's interface is later on used to determine form widgets. | 14:25 |
| SteveA | maybe you can use subscription adapters here | 14:26 |
| SteveA | I really have no idea why you want what you want | 14:26 |
| MJ | Heh | 14:26 |
| MJ | The trick is to use a base to IFoo | 14:27 |
| MJ | And not register an adapter for that | 14:27 |
| MJ | To give context: we have dynamic fields (not unlike a TTW schema) | 14:27 |
| MJ | And IFoo is a specific IField interface | 14:28 |
| MJ | Asking for IField works. | 14:28 |
| MJ | I then get the most specific. | 14:28 |
| MJ | Thanks for duckheading, Steve | 14:30 |
| MJ | :) | 14:30 |
| SteveA | you still won't necessarily get the most specific | 14:36 |
| SteveA | you'll get the least specific one that matches what you asked for | 14:36 |
| MJ | Nope, I get the most specific | 14:39 |
| MJ | So, IFoo is really IFoo(IBaz) | 14:39 |
| MJ | Erm, in my case not | 14:40 |
| MJ | Its IFooSpam(IBazSpam) | 14:40 |
| MJ | No adapters are registered for IBazSpam | 14:40 |
| MJ | Asking for IBazSpam(object) gets me the most specific adapter | 14:41 |
| MJ | (so FooSpam for IFoo and and BarSpam for IBar) | 14:41 |
| SteveA | it just happens to get you the most specific adapter that you have registered | 14:43 |
| SteveA | because you have not registered a more specific adapter yet | 14:43 |
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| SteveA | if you go and register a more specific adapter | 14:44 |
| SteveA | then you'll no longer get the most specific adapter | 14:44 |
| SteveA | maybe i'm being pedantic, but it sounds like a fragile system | 14:44 |
| SteveA | because you're relying on having full control of all adapters registered | 14:44 |
| SteveA | if indeed you do want the most specific adapter | 14:44 |
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| MJ | Dunno, it seems to work fine now | 14:55 |
| MJ | I have multiple such adapters | 14:55 |
| MJ | And so far each and every one gets the correct adapter (most specific) | 14:55 |
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| baijum | hi all | 15:06 |
| baijum | how can I add a TextIndex through program (not using ZMI) | 15:08 |
| baijum | I manged to add catalog and intid like this: http://paste.plone.org/10219 | 15:08 |
| baijum | in the 'add' method, I want to add TextIndex | 15:10 |
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| baijum | Hmm..I should use 'from zope.app.catalog.text import TextIndex' instead of 'from zope.index.text.textindex import TextIndex' | 15:33 |
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| Bernulf | Hello! I never thought that filling some data in a choice is so annoying ;) Well i have a class which implements ITerm and a class which implements IVocabulary and a definition which have one choice. When i try to show the editor i get a component lookup error because container tries to get a adapter for my vocabulary? the relevant code which the error is here http://pastebin.de/10578 where is my error? do i use this vocabulary | 16:57 |
| Bernulf | thing the wrong way? | 16:57 |
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| Theuni | Bernulf: general remark: try switching to use sources instead of vocabularies | 17:17 |
| Theuni | they are a bit simpler to use | 17:18 |
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| SteveA | Theuni: do you know of any docs on sources? | 17:24 |
| SteveA | we were thinking of switching to them for launchpad | 17:24 |
| Theuni | not that i know of | 17:25 |
| Theuni | i should probably write one | 17:25 |
| Theuni | and also i'm currently working on another simplification for standard cases | 17:25 |
| Theuni | any doctests? | 17:26 |
| * mgedmin sometimes dreams about creating a Zope Documentation Project: a README.txt in every zope.* package | 17:26 | |
| Theuni | try zope.app.form.browser, i got a hint that there might be something about the interaction | 17:26 |
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| Bernulf | hm I'm new to zope (use it since a week :) ) I don't know what you mean with sources but no problem, I use now this SimpleVocabulary thing its ok for my needs :) | 17:45 |
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| SmokeyD | hey all, I'm making a custom widget. It is displayed in the form, but all tal: tags are just literally displayed in the HTML page instead of interpreting them. I have no clue why. | 19:10 |
| SmokeyD | The code is on http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1466 | 19:10 |
| SmokeyD | it is very small | 19:10 |
| SmokeyD | I was just starting | 19:11 |
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| SmokeyD | andrew_m, you've got an idea? | 19:14 |
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| andrew_m | hi SmokeyD | 19:16 |
| SmokeyD | hi andrew | 19:16 |
| andrew_m | SmokeyD: i think it is: <div xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal"> | 19:16 |
| andrew_m | not 'namespace' | 19:16 |
| SmokeyD | what do you mean? I should not declare the namespace? | 19:17 |
| SmokeyD | or i made a typo | 19:17 |
| andrew_m | typo | 19:17 |
| SmokeyD | because then srichter also made it in his book ;) | 19:17 |
| andrew_m | aww | 19:17 |
| andrew_m | hmm.. or maybe it changed since the book was written | 19:18 |
| andrew_m | dunno.. | 19:18 |
| SmokeyD | ok | 19:18 |
| srichter | I don't think it changed | 19:18 |
| SmokeyD | Ow wait, I didn't read right :) I re-read it 4 times if I made a typo, but richter indeed used "namespaces" not "namespace" | 19:19 |
| SmokeyD | :) | 19:19 |
| SmokeyD | my bad | 19:19 |
| andrew_m | oke :) all clear | 19:19 |
| SmokeyD | ok, I get an invalid tal syntax error now, so at least the tal tags are interpreted | 19:20 |
| SmokeyD | :) | 19:20 |
| SmokeyD | that's better | 19:20 |
| SmokeyD | thanks | 19:20 |
| andrew_m | np | 19:20 |
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| SmokeyD | hey, is it possible, when I add an object to a container object, to access the container object | 19:44 |
| SmokeyD | from the add form | 19:44 |
| SmokeyD | (a formlib form) | 19:44 |
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| rocky | SmokeyD: myobj.__parent__ ? | 19:46 |
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| batlogg | J1m: hi | 19:52 |
| batlogg | J1m: srichter told me that we can fix svn access together | 19:52 |
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| Theuni | SmokeyD: that can be difficult. if you call the form in the context of the container, then "context" will be the container | 20:06 |
| Theuni | SmokeyD: however, you should consider making your form view class provide a method to do what you want :) | 20:06 |
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| batlogg | J1m: ayt? | 20:56 |
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| SmokeyD | How do I determine what the context will be | 21:06 |
| SmokeyD | Theuni, | 21:06 |
| SmokeyD | normally it is the containing class indeed | 21:06 |
| SmokeyD | but not with forms | 21:06 |
| SmokeyD | or can I determine the context with the for="some.interface" in the zcml configure | 21:06 |
| SmokeyD | where you normally register the form for IAdding | 21:07 |
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| SmokeyD | I need to access a method of the container object in which I add the object | 21:11 |
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| SmokeyD | andrew_m, you've got an idea? | 21:14 |
| febb | Hola all ! | 21:14 |
| SmokeyD | hola febb | 21:14 |
| febb | Hola SmokeyD how are you today ? | 21:15 |
| andrew_m | SmokeyD: i think it's the for="some.interface".. but i've never used formlib to be honest | 21:15 |
| andrew_m | could be different | 21:15 |
| SmokeyD | ok, I;ll try it | 21:15 |
| SmokeyD | thanks | 21:15 |
| SmokeyD | estoy bien, y usted? | 21:15 |
| SmokeyD | febb | 21:16 |
| febb | Smokey muy bien gracias ... coordinando mi asistencia al curso de Zope3. | 21:16 |
| SmokeyD | cool. En Mexico? Muy bient | 21:17 |
| SmokeyD | bien | 21:17 |
| SmokeyD | me gusta participar | 21:17 |
| SmokeyD | :) | 21:17 |
| SmokeyD | especialmente en Mexico | 21:17 |
| febb | no !... ire al curso de Zope3 en Copenhagen en Octubre próximo. | 21:19 |
| SmokeyD | ok, en Copenhagen, cool | 21:19 |
| febb | (wonder if its disrespectul for us to be taling inspenish here.... i apologize :) ) | 21:19 |
| SmokeyD | Yeah you're right | 21:19 |
| febb | SmokeyD will you be there ? | 21:19 |
| SmokeyD | But I like talking spanish | 21:19 |
| SmokeyD | I didn't know about it febb | 21:20 |
| febb | we can talk in spanish anytime you want.... i just guess people here do not welcome that very much ;) | 21:20 |
| febb | ok, actually philiKON would be the teacher. thats why i was looking for him yesterday. | 21:20 |
| febb | he WILL be the teacher. | 21:20 |
| SmokeyD | yeah, Iim reading the site. Interesting | 21:21 |
| febb | also, I am trying to organize a couple of days of to travel around, after the course..... trying to find out where to go and how not to spend that much...its so expensive all now. | 21:22 |
| febb | in Europe. I mean. | 21:22 |
| SmokeyD | Yeah, definitely | 21:23 |
| SmokeyD | Well, you could come to the Netherlands | 21:23 |
| SmokeyD | My door is open | 21:23 |
| febb | Oh, thanks I appreciate that. Maybe we could have a beer if we end up in the NL. I am trying to arrange all the trip now.... | 21:25 |
| SmokeyD | yeah sure | 21:25 |
| SmokeyD | would be nice | 21:25 |
| SmokeyD | you can always stay at my place. I'm living together with 5 other student, so it's not luxurious, but there's always room | 21:26 |
| SmokeyD | oof, but I won't be coming to the course | 21:26 |
| febb | I was looking today for transportation from Copenhage to Amsterdam. Eurailpass is very expensive for just a few days, so, I was looking at moving by bus. do you think thats a good idea.? | 21:26 |
| SmokeyD | Unless somebody will pay the course fee | 21:26 |
| febb | Thanks for the offer. I appreciate it. | 21:26 |
| febb | I am already doing that (paying the course), so...there is not much left for the tourism part ! ;) | 21:27 |
| SmokeyD | Hmm, it's indeed cheaper to take the long distance european busses | 21:27 |
| SmokeyD | yeah, I can imagine | 21:27 |
| SmokeyD | the buscompany is eurolines | 21:27 |
| febb | long distance european buses: mmm.... you know of a web site for those? to check itineraries, etc. | 21:28 |
| SmokeyD | they've got a website with schedules and prices | 21:28 |
| febb | let me google around for that. | 21:28 |
| febb | I am on their site now. Thanks this is valuable now !! :) | 21:29 |
| philiKON | eurolines is ok | 21:29 |
| philiKON | trains are still nicer, though | 21:29 |
| febb | hi philiKON como estas ? as you can see I am still on this.... it's all your fault ! | 21:30 |
| philiKON | hehe :) | 21:30 |
| febb | just kidding eh!? | 21:30 |
| febb | yeah, trains are very nice.. I used to travel a lot by train around 15 years ago in Europe, but now itsa a fortune what yo u have to pay in Euros for a couple of days travel. | 21:31 |
| febb | using Eurailpass. | 21:31 |
| SmokeyD | In germany you have a weekend ticket for the trains | 21:33 |
| SmokeyD | it's cheap, but also slow since tou can't use the faster trains | 21:33 |
| SmokeyD | it's called the wochenende ticket | 21:33 |
| febb | philiKON whenever you have a chance, could you please ask again Sasha to send me an email .... i copied you, btw. | 21:33 |
| febb | wochende ticket... let me google on that also. :) | 21:34 |
| febb | You guys should start your own online travel advisor service ! :) | 21:34 |
| SmokeyD | but philiKON, do you gave an idea how I could access the containing object from an addform class for an object that I am adding to the container object? | 21:34 |
| SmokeyD | wochenende febb, not wochende | 21:35 |
| febb | opps, sorry. typing finger error. | 21:35 |
| philiKON | dont' get the wochenende ticket | 21:35 |
| philiKON | you won't get far | 21:35 |
| philiKON | as you can only use regional trains | 21:35 |
| philiKON | the ones that stop at every milk can | 21:35 |
| philiKON | febb, saw the email. sasha will answer | 21:35 |
| SmokeyD | febb: http://www.bahn.de/-S:PtVORd:ea6IqdNNeT6J0tNNNONM/p/view/international/englisch/international_guests.shtml | 21:36 |
| philiKON | SmokeyD, the addform is a view for the adding view which is a view for the container | 21:36 |
| philiKON | so, context.context should do it | 21:36 |
| febb | philiKON thanks. I need to move fast on all booking, payments, etc. lots of stuff have to be in sync. | 21:36 |
| SmokeyD | ok, that way. I was already trying, but didn't think about it that way | 21:36 |
| SmokeyD | thanks | 21:36 |
| febb | Smokey thanks for the URL, looking at it now. | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | but philiKON is right | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | it is slow | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | I've used them often enough | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | and I like it | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | but you don't want to be in a hurry with them | 21:37 |
| SmokeyD | the wochenende ticket I mean | 21:38 |
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| SmokeyD | philiKON, the context.context is an <zope.app.publisher.browser.viewmeta.+ object at 0xa576d1cc> object | 21:39 |
| SmokeyD | not the actual container | 21:39 |
| philiKON | then context.context.context :) | 21:39 |
| SmokeyD | :) | 21:39 |
| SmokeyD | I'll keep on trying | 21:39 |
| febb | There are no direct flights to Copenhagen from MExico city, so we need to stop somewhere else. and, after the course, we'll move from that stop to visit around it.... | 21:40 |
| philiKON | you can fly KLM and use amsterdam as a hub | 21:40 |
| febb | that could be Amsterdam, Frankfurt, Paris or Madrid... go figure. | 21:40 |
| philiKON | right :) | 21:40 |
| SmokeyD | but febb, you could also look at easyjet and ryanair | 21:40 |
| SmokeyD | they are seriously cheap as well | 21:40 |
| philiKON | SmokeyD, doesn't make much sense | 21:40 |
| philiKON | SmokeyD, he's flying intercontinental | 21:41 |
| febb | yes, the prob is that most flights are completely full now. There is some event in Copenhage those days that makes all flights and hotels full. | 21:41 |
| philiKON | they'll give him the connecting flight much cheaper | 21:41 |
| febb | as of now I got booked Continental airlines MEX-Newark USA-CPH which really sucks.... | 21:41 |
| SmokeyD | yeah that's true philiKON | 21:42 |
| febb | I am on waiting list MEX-Amsterdam-CPH and MEX-CDG-CPH and MEX-MAD-CPH | 21:42 |
| edgordon | this is only barely appropriate to the room, but is there anyone that is familiar w/ FiveSQLOS that would let me pick their brain about some configuration issues i am having? | 21:43 |
| febb | edgordon well my travel adventures are completely innapropriate to this room, so, I'd say, do not worry. | 21:44 |
| edgordon | haha | 21:44 |
| edgordon | figured you might have earned that right | 21:44 |
| edgordon | i am just working on a module, and i can get everything to work in zope 3, but under Five selects give me a permission error when trying to iterate through the results. | 21:46 |
| SmokeyD | well, it's not like it's enormously busy here, so some off topic talk won't hurt | 21:47 |
| edgordon | sqlos has the excellent sip app to get you going, but i haven't found much in the way of FiveSQLOS implementations | 21:48 |
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| flox | hi | 21:52 |
| flox | i hv a persistency problem, wih PrincipalAnnotation | 21:52 |
| flox | i runn zope in debug mode, through 'bin\debugzope' | 21:56 |
| flox | here is my problem http://pastebin.ca/125553 | 21:56 |
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| flox | i don't understand why the PrincipalAnnotation is not preserved when i restart Zope | 21:57 |
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| flox | i hv this issue when i run Zope normally, too | 21:58 |
| febb | SmokeyD thanks for your understanding and supprt :) (about the offtopics).... | 22:03 |
| SmokeyD | :) | 22:04 |
| SmokeyD | sure, I like it:) | 22:04 |
| febb | great. | 22:04 |
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| regebro | Hi all! | 22:06 |
| regebro | How do you use gettexts plural support under Zope3? | 22:06 |
| regebro | All I can find is a reference that it doesn't work, and that it will be added. :) | 22:06 |
| regebro | Phillp J Eby said he would add it... Three years ago. :) | 22:07 |
| srichter | regebro: it is not implemented | 22:08 |
| regebro | Nuts. | 22:08 |
| regebro | OK, thanks. I'll just have to go with the ugly "minute(s)" hack. Barf. | 22:09 |
| srichter | well, please add it!!! :-) | 22:09 |
| srichter | (Seriously.) | 22:09 |
| regebro | Yeah, if I get time I will. | 22:09 |
| regebro | But that would arrive in Zope 2.11 and I need it today. :) | 22:10 |
| febb | well, lunch time now, time to go..... I will be back later on. have a good nite all my Eurpoean friends if I don't see you online again today. | 22:10 |
| regebro | I prefer to display the duration as "3:45" but oh no, the customer prompltly have to have it a "3 hours, 45 minutes". :/ | 22:11 |
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| mgedmin | a coworker makes fun of me because I prefer "3 hours, 45 minutes" to "3:45" | 22:18 |
| mgedmin | I mean, with 3:45 how do I know it is not three minutes, forty-five seconds? | 22:18 |
| regebro | Well, sure, in general. But this is in a calendar. Who ever books meetings that that 3 minutes 45 seconds? :-) | 22:19 |
| regebro | You can't even to that! :) | 22:19 |
| regebro | Wouldn't be a problem if plurality was implemented. Then it would look OK, and you could just translate X hours, Y minutes with X:Y if you wanted to. :) | 22:21 |
| regebro | (And why is my mapping ignored. Grrr.) | 22:22 |
| * regebro is tired and cranky | 22:22 | |
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| rocky | i prefer writing it as 3.75hrs :) | 22:23 |
| regebro | Pfah. You are decimal damaged. :) | 22:23 |
| regebro | Base 60 is a nice base. :) | 22:24 |
| mgedmin | risky, someone might interpret 3.25hrs as 3:25 instead of 3:15 | 22:24 |
| rocky | mgedmin: that's their problem... 3.25hrs clearly has a decimal :) | 22:25 |
| rocky | errr... 3.75hrs | 22:25 |
| * mgedmin sometimes thinks 3:50 is half-past-three | 22:25 | |
| rocky | lol | 22:25 |
| rocky | time needs to be metricized ;) | 22:25 |
| mgedmin | let's all use kiloseconds | 22:25 |
| flox | http://pastebin.ca/125553 | 22:27 |
| flox | what i do wrong? | 22:27 |
| mgedmin | flox: you mentioned that you did this with bin/debuzope, right? | 22:31 |
| mgedmin | did you remember to import transaction; transaction.commit() ? | 22:31 |
| flox | i hv to do that? | 22:31 |
| flox | before to close server ? | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | only if you want your changes to be saved | 22:32 |
| flox | mgedmin: ok, now this example work | 22:33 |
| mgedmin | usually the publisher commits the transaction after every (successful) request; if you use debugzope, you have to do it yourself | 22:33 |
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| flox | mgedmin: i hv a real case, similar to this one that does not work | 22:33 |
| flox | through browser | 22:34 |
| flox | i hv to check again.... see yo uwithin 30 min maybe | 22:34 |
| flox | thank you, mgedmin | 22:34 |
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| eldafar | Anyone here know anything about copyright stuff? | 23:15 |
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| benji | eldafar: two things; (1) don't ask to ask, just ask, (2) no one in here is an IP lawyer, but I'm sure wel all have strong opinions :) | 23:26 |
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