| *** timte has quit IRC | 00:26 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 00:39 | |
| *** pcardune has quit IRC | 00:42 | |
| *** batlogg has quit IRC | 00:59 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 01:21 | |
| *** philiKON has quit IRC | 01:48 | |
| *** harobed has quit IRC | 02:05 | |
| *** vlado has quit IRC | 02:17 | |
| *** oferw has joined #zope3-dev | 02:31 | |
| *** mcdonc has quit IRC | 02:53 | |
| *** oferw has quit IRC | 03:27 | |
| *** febb has joined #zope3-dev | 03:31 | |
| *** rocky is now known as rocky|Zzz | 03:45 | |
| *** MiUlEr has quit IRC | 03:50 | |
| *** pcardune has joined #zope3-dev | 04:34 | |
| *** pcardune has quit IRC | 04:39 | |
| *** febb has quit IRC | 05:01 | |
| *** stub has joined #zope3-dev | 06:21 | |
| *** romanofski has quit IRC | 07:51 | |
| *** jukart has joined #zope3-dev | 08:12 | |
| *** batlogg has joined #zope3-dev | 08:57 | |
| *** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev | 09:09 | |
| *** hdima has joined #zope3-dev | 09:24 | |
| *** philiKON has quit IRC | 09:24 | |
| *** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev | 09:31 | |
| *** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev | 09:32 | |
| *** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev | 09:33 | |
| romanofski | moin | 09:34 |
|---|---|---|
| *** srichter has quit IRC | 09:38 | |
| *** zagy has joined #zope3-dev | 09:45 | |
| *** dobee has joined #zope3-dev | 09:51 | |
| *** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev | 10:07 | |
| *** jukart_ has joined #zope3-dev | 10:11 | |
| *** jukart has quit IRC | 10:11 | |
| *** wrobel has joined #zope3-dev | 10:25 | |
| *** batlogg has quit IRC | 10:27 | |
| *** jukart_ has quit IRC | 10:27 | |
| *** jukart has joined #zope3-dev | 10:27 | |
| *** agroszer has joined #zope3-dev | 10:29 | |
| *** MJ has quit IRC | 10:30 | |
| *** srichter has joined #zope3-dev | 10:32 | |
| *** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev | 10:41 | |
| *** dobee has quit IRC | 10:43 | |
| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o srichter | 10:51 | |
| d2m | i found - by chance - the new http://svn.zope.org/lovely.tag/ checkins, http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/checkins/ does not show them -- is the checkins list maintained by hand ? | 10:52 |
| *** dobee has joined #zope3-dev | 10:54 | |
| philiKON | d2m, yes | 10:55 |
| philiKON | d2m, somebody needs to approve batlogg etc. | 10:55 |
| d2m | philiKON: i see | 10:56 |
| *** batlogg has joined #zope3-dev | 11:01 | |
| *** flox|away has quit IRC | 11:04 | |
| *** oferw has joined #zope3-dev | 11:06 | |
| *** flox has joined #zope3-dev | 11:07 | |
| *** flox is now known as flox|away | 11:07 | |
| *** jukart has quit IRC | 11:19 | |
| *** jukart has joined #zope3-dev | 11:22 | |
| *** flox|away has quit IRC | 11:40 | |
| *** SteveA has joined #zope3-dev | 11:41 | |
| *** SteveA has quit IRC | 11:46 | |
| *** MJ has joined #zope3-dev | 11:51 | |
| *** oferw has quit IRC | 11:55 | |
| *** SteveA has joined #zope3-dev | 11:58 | |
| *** flox has joined #zope3-dev | 12:14 | |
| *** flox is now known as flox|away | 12:15 | |
| *** stub has quit IRC | 12:19 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 12:31 | |
| *** batlogg has quit IRC | 12:33 | |
| *** flox|away has quit IRC | 12:34 | |
| *** flox has joined #zope3-dev | 12:36 | |
| *** flox is now known as flox|away | 12:36 | |
| *** batlogg has joined #zope3-dev | 12:37 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 12:42 | |
| *** mkerrin has joined #zope3-dev | 12:45 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 12:55 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 13:00 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 13:12 | |
| *** dunny has quit IRC | 13:28 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 13:37 | |
| *** ignas has joined #zope3-dev | 13:37 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 13:40 | |
| *** stub has joined #zope3-dev | 13:56 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 14:06 | |
| *** rocky|Zzz is now known as rocky | 14:09 | |
| *** nathany has joined #zope3-dev | 14:10 | |
| *** benji has quit IRC | 14:16 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 14:19 | |
| *** volvox has joined #zope3-dev | 14:20 | |
| *** _projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev | 14:34 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 14:38 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 14:40 | |
| *** projekt01 has quit IRC | 14:42 | |
| *** benji has joined #zope3-dev | 14:53 | |
| philiKON | all: bugday: thursday or friday? | 15:02 |
| * philiKON votes: thursday | 15:02 | |
| *** jukart has quit IRC | 15:06 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 15:07 | |
| srichter | philiKON: what's left to do? | 15:15 |
| philiKON | fix bugs?!? | 15:15 |
| srichter | I think Thursday would be better too | 15:15 |
| srichter | we will have that day for community work anyways | 15:16 |
| philiKON | cool | 15:16 |
| srichter | philiKON: how many bugs are open? | 15:16 |
| philiKON | umm. ask the issue tracker? | 15:17 |
| philiKON | 5 or so in category 3.3 release | 15:17 |
| philiKON | 20 or so in category critical | 15:17 |
| srichter | whee | 15:17 |
| *** flox|away is now known as flox | 15:19 | |
| *** jukart has joined #zope3-dev | 15:20 | |
| srichter | philiKON: what package demonstrates the new ZCML directive decalration style (the one with meta.py)? | 15:21 |
| philiKON | ? | 15:21 |
| srichter | I thought I saw a checking that did not use the metadirectives, metaconfigure and meta.zcml pattern anymore | 15:22 |
| srichter | I thought it changed to meta.py and meta.zcml | 15:22 |
| philiKON | i tend to do zcml.py and meta.zcml | 15:22 |
| philiKON | where zcml.py has the schemas and handlers | 15:22 |
| philiKON | zope.component, zope.i18n, zope.security, etc. | 15:23 |
| benji | same here, philiKON | 15:23 |
| srichter | ok, did you start this in the core already too? | 15:23 |
| srichter | ok | 15:23 |
| philiKON | yes | 15:23 |
| philiKON | zope.sendmail too | 15:23 |
| srichter | got it; thanks! | 15:24 |
| *** ignas has quit IRC | 15:34 | |
| *** romanofski has quit IRC | 15:34 | |
| agroszer | hi, srichter | 15:36 |
| philiKON | Theuni, don't get excited too soon. read my other emails... | 15:36 |
| philiKON | the one about how i oculdn't make the beta... | 15:37 |
| srichter | philiKON: I can do the release if you want | 15:39 |
| srichter | agroszer: hi | 15:39 |
| philiKON | srichter, that's not the point | 15:39 |
| philiKON | 1. we still have packaging bugs | 15:39 |
| philiKON | well, there's 2. :) | 15:39 |
| philiKON | there's no 2. :) | 15:39 |
| agroszer | srichter: do you remember the ZODBdebugger i started at the swisssprint? ;-) | 15:39 |
| srichter | agroszer: yes | 15:40 |
| agroszer | cool | 15:40 |
| srichter | is there something cool to see? | 15:40 |
| srichter | :-) | 15:40 |
| philiKON | srichter, the tarball i built from the current branch doesn't work | 15:40 |
| agroszer | yep, coming slowly :-) | 15:40 |
| philiKON | tests seem to pass -- on linux, but i oculdn't get instances to start | 15:40 |
| agroszer | but, where to put it on the svn? | 15:40 |
| srichter | agroszer: anywhere you like | 15:41 |
| Theuni | philiKON: ok with me. i'll check in another bugfix then | 15:41 |
| philiKON | agroszer, namespace.packagename | 15:41 |
| srichter | agroszer: probably the z3c namespace | 15:41 |
| agroszer | z3c.zodbdebugger? | 15:41 |
| srichter | agroszer: yep | 15:41 |
| philiKON | what does zodbdebugger do? | 15:41 |
| srichter | philiKON: yeah, that comes with the release manager job | 15:41 |
| agroszer | philiKON: you can browse through the ZODB | 15:42 |
| philiKON | srichter, well, whoever made 3.3b1 didn't do enough... | 15:42 |
| agroszer | it's a wx based stand-alone app | 15:42 |
| philiKON | agroszer, shouldn't it be zodbbrowser then? | 15:42 |
| philiKON | i mean, where's the debugging? | 15:42 |
| agroszer | good point | 15:42 |
| srichter | you could also call it introspection or inspection | 15:42 |
| srichter | you can debug model bugs | 15:43 |
| srichter | (for example) | 15:43 |
| philiKON | well, yeah... | 15:43 |
| agroszer | currently it is just a regular objecttree+properties viewer | 15:43 |
| philiKON | i'd call it zodbbrowser | 15:43 |
| agroszer | but it's plugin based | 15:43 |
| philiKON | but it's your thing :) | 15:44 |
| *** romanofski has joined #zope3-dev | 15:44 | |
| agroszer | so as Stephan had the idea, somebody could extend it to view the transactions | 15:44 |
| srichter | agroszer: can you see the transactions already? | 15:45 |
| agroszer | ok guys, I'll call it z3c.zodbbrowser | 15:45 |
| agroszer | srichter: not yet :-( | 15:45 |
| srichter | agroszer: that's ok; I am still very excited | 15:45 |
| agroszer | I fiddled with the plugin 'system' | 15:46 |
| srichter | I think it will be a great educational tool too for beginners | 15:46 |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 15:46 | |
| srichter | ktwilight: and who are you? :-) (Welcome!) | 15:46 |
| agroszer | yeah, to see what is stored really and how | 15:46 |
| srichter | right | 15:46 |
| ktwilight | hello... | 15:47 |
| philiKON | i don't understand why this can't be a web view | 15:47 |
| ktwilight | just a passerby :) | 15:47 |
| philiKON | why does this have to be wx? | 15:47 |
| *** tonico has quit IRC | 15:47 | |
| srichter | philiKON: because its a ZODB tool and not a Zope tool | 15:47 |
| srichter | and I think wx is much more scalable for this thing | 15:47 |
| philiKON | uh huh | 15:47 |
| agroszer | yep | 15:48 |
| agroszer | +1 | 15:48 |
| philiKON | scalable? | 15:48 |
| agroszer | usable, I'll say | 15:48 |
| srichter | yeah, as in tree view | 15:48 |
| philiKON | it's not like we don't have trees in zope :) | 15:48 |
| agroszer | ok, I'll post an [ANN] to the lists as soon as something is there | 15:50 |
| *** Bernulf has joined #zope3-dev | 15:53 | |
| *** tonico has joined #zope3-dev | 15:58 | |
| Bernulf | hi - small question about IContainer and so in zope 3. here is the code http://pastebin.de/10824. I have a SiteContainer which should hold other SiteContainer and Site's. I use a dotted String to ItemTypePrecondition because of cyclic dependecies. It works fine if i only define ISite to Precondition but i cant add ISiteContainer this way - so how to say siteContainer that he is able to hold instances of SiteContainer? :) | 15:59 |
| srichter | Bernulf: pastebin did not work | 16:02 |
| srichter | ktwilight: what's your name? | 16:02 |
| Bernulf | http://pastebin.de/10824 | 16:03 |
| Bernulf | i added it to zope3.pastebin.com but somehow its very slow :( | 16:05 |
| philiKON | Bernulf, http://paste.lisp.org/display/24112 | 16:06 |
| *** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev | 16:13 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 16:16 | |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 16:16 | |
| Bernulf | oh thank you! I also found this contrains.txt in zope.app.container - so this means that this __setitem__.precondition thing isn't needed | 16:18 |
| philiKON | indeed | 16:18 |
| *** J1m has joined #zope3-dev | 16:20 | |
| *** ktwilight has quit IRC | 16:27 | |
| *** _projekt01 has quit IRC | 16:32 | |
| *** volvox has quit IRC | 16:33 | |
| *** volvox has joined #zope3-dev | 16:38 | |
| philiKON | Theuni, don't forget CHANGES.txt entry on 3.3 branch | 16:38 |
| Theuni | ah darn. thanks. | 16:39 |
| philiKON | Theuni, what about #574? is the branch ready? | 16:41 |
| Theuni | almost. j1m reviewed it and approved it with one minor issue (switching away from ztapi). i'll get that fixed today and merge it then. | 16:42 |
| philiKON | yeah | 16:42 |
| philiKON | ztapi sux | 16:42 |
| philiKON | great | 16:43 |
| philiKON | only 3 zope3.3-relevant bugs left then | 16:43 |
| Theuni | yup | 16:44 |
| Theuni | J1m: after adding 3.3 as a severity in the collector, could you also add 3.4 so people can start assigning features to that? | 16:48 |
| J1m | sure | 16:52 |
| *** ktwilight has joined #zope3-dev | 16:52 | |
| J1m | There is already an entry for 3.4 alpha 1 | 16:54 |
| philiKON | ah, found it | 16:55 |
| *** J1m has quit IRC | 16:58 | |
| *** J1m has joined #zope3-dev | 17:02 | |
| *** zagy has quit IRC | 17:06 | |
| *** bradb has joined #zope3-dev | 17:10 | |
| *** whit has joined #zope3-dev | 17:20 | |
| batlogg | J1m: who's moderating the z3-checkins mailman? it seems like i'm (or the svn-script) is not allowed to post for batlogg | 17:22 |
| *** gumpa has joined #zope3-dev | 17:22 | |
| *** nathany has quit IRC | 17:28 | |
| *** projekt01 has left #zope3-dev | 17:28 | |
| philiKON | batlogg, J1m does | 17:29 |
| philiKON | batlogg, but you can also simply subscribe to the lists | 17:29 |
| philiKON | and set your mail delivery option to off | 17:29 |
| philiKON | then you won't ge tthe emails but are allowed to post | 17:29 |
| batlogg | philiKON: thanks, that what i just did :) | 17:29 |
| J1m | I haven't seen moderatpr email in a while | 17:29 |
| batlogg | (after some thinking) :) | 17:29 |
| J1m | I wonder why | 17:29 |
| *** zagy has joined #zope3-dev | 17:34 | |
| *** pcardune has joined #zope3-dev | 17:42 | |
| *** hdima has quit IRC | 17:43 | |
| Theuni | philiKON: just a small note: i think "rejected" would have been the correct solution for that bug | 18:16 |
| philiKON | ok | 18:16 |
| Theuni | 'wontfix' acknowledges a bug as reproducable but we won't fix it, whereas reject/invalid says the behaviour can't be reproduced. | 18:17 |
| philiKON | ok. will fix | 18:17 |
| philiKON | Theuni, done. thanks for the suggestion | 18:18 |
| Theuni | thanks too | 18:18 |
| philiKON | if only all bugs were like that | 18:19 |
| philiKON | at least were' down to 18 critical | 18:19 |
| philiKON | and 3 minus 1 for zope 3.3 | 18:19 |
| philiKON | err, 4 minus 1 | 18:19 |
| Theuni | 3 minus 1? | 18:19 |
| Theuni | ah | 18:19 |
| *** alecm has joined #zope3-dev | 18:22 | |
| *** J1m has quit IRC | 18:26 | |
| *** J1m has joined #zope3-dev | 18:29 | |
| philiKON | J1m, Theuni, are you going to ploneconf? | 18:30 |
| *** projekt01 has joined #zope3-dev | 18:30 | |
| *** zagy_ has joined #zope3-dev | 18:35 | |
| *** stub has quit IRC | 18:39 | |
| *** kobold has joined #zope3-dev | 18:45 | |
| *** zagy has quit IRC | 18:47 | |
| *** batlogg has quit IRC | 18:56 | |
| philiKON | i'm going to announce a bugday for thursdya now | 19:07 |
| philiKON | any objections in the next 10 seconds please | 19:07 |
| srichter | +1 | 19:08 |
| *** niemeyer has joined #zope3-dev | 19:08 | |
| *** MJ has quit IRC | 19:14 | |
| *** romanofski has quit IRC | 19:15 | |
| *** philiKON has quit IRC | 19:26 | |
| *** zagy_ has quit IRC | 19:35 | |
| *** harobed has joined #zope3-dev | 20:01 | |
| *** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev | 20:21 | |
| *** febb has joined #zope3-dev | 20:38 | |
| febb | hi all | 20:39 |
| *** RaFromBRC has joined #zope3-dev | 20:48 | |
| *** batlogg has joined #zope3-dev | 21:02 | |
| *** MJ has joined #zope3-dev | 21:04 | |
| *** jukart_ has joined #zope3-dev | 21:08 | |
| *** jukart has quit IRC | 21:09 | |
| *** mexiKON has joined #zope3-dev | 21:19 | |
| *** kobold has quit IRC | 21:25 | |
| *** philiKON has quit IRC | 21:27 | |
| *** MiUlEr has joined #zope3-dev | 21:28 | |
| *** jukart_ has quit IRC | 21:30 | |
| *** mkerrin has quit IRC | 21:37 | |
| *** gumpa has quit IRC | 21:39 | |
| *** vlado has joined #zope3-dev | 21:39 | |
| *** gumpa has joined #zope3-dev | 21:40 | |
| *** agroszer has quit IRC | 21:50 | |
| WebMaven | Does anyone have a use-case or requirements gathering system based on Zope? | 21:53 |
| *** vlado has quit IRC | 21:57 | |
| *** jukart has joined #zope3-dev | 22:07 | |
| *** jukart has left #zope3-dev | 22:07 | |
| mexiKON | J1m, you won't be surprised to hear this, but i thought i'd let you know: | 22:09 |
| mexiKON | i'm working on my book right now, the chapter on Sites | 22:09 |
| mexiKON | i'm actually deletiing more than half of the text | 22:09 |
| mexiKON | without any necessary replacement | 22:09 |
| mexiKON | talk about simplification :) | 22:10 |
| J1m | That's great | 22:18 |
| J1m | Also, I'm not planning to go to the plone conf | 22:18 |
| srichter | btw, I probably need to do the site/ZCML declaration work for work, so I might provide that soonish | 22:20 |
| mexiKON | srichter, no SoC project? | 22:20 |
| srichter | mexiKON: no, Plone did not get many projects | 22:21 |
| mexiKON | ic | 22:21 |
| *** mexiKON has quit IRC | 22:22 | |
| *** febb has quit IRC | 22:25 | |
| *** philiKON has joined #zope3-dev | 22:26 | |
| *** dunny has joined #zope3-dev | 22:28 | |
| *** kobold has joined #zope3-dev | 22:54 | |
| *** pcardune has quit IRC | 22:55 | |
| *** xenru has joined #zope3-dev | 23:09 | |
| *** MiUlEr has quit IRC | 23:11 | |
| *** MiUlEr has joined #zope3-dev | 23:19 | |
| *** xenru has quit IRC | 23:20 | |
| *** xenru has joined #zope3-dev | 23:20 | |
| *** vlado has joined #zope3-dev | 23:23 | |
| philiKON | J1m, ZEO tests seem to pass now. but they run very slowly, cpu isn't even over 30% usage. is that normal? | 23:30 |
| philiKON | ah, actually, now i get a time out | 23:30 |
| *** xenru|clone has quit IRC | 23:33 | |
| J1m | philiKON: yes, that is normal. | 23:39 |
| philiKON | J1m, even the timeout error: http://paste.lisp.org/display/24142 ? | 23:40 |
| *** batlogg has quit IRC | 23:44 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.15.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!