IRC log of #zope3-dev for Friday, 2006-09-15

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eclipticcan someone please translate the following spanish for me? "Idem..On verra si tu comprends!"02:33
yotaeuh02:34
yotano spanish02:34
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WebMavenHi folks. Where do I change Zope3's configuration to add an arbitrary directory to the PTHONPATH?04:11
WebMavenI mean, PYTHONPATH...04:11
WebMavenIn Zope2, it's in zope.conf.04:11
WebMavenBut not, apparently, in Zope3.04:11
WebMavenAny suggestions?04:17
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roymHi Folks - how can I get the system to reload/re-read /etc/default/rcS without rebooting?06:17
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timteis a new browserview created for each time a method is called or will I have the same browserview object for each method call which are caused by one and the same zope template?16:51
timte<span tal:content="view/getName" /> <span tal:content="view/getAddress" />  --  will that create one or two browseobjects?16:52
rockytimte: new one is created, it has to be since the request is handed into the constructor16:57
rockyremember, a view adapts the request and the context16:57
timteright16:58
timteso then I can't cache a few values16:58
rockytimte: you could cache by sticking stuff in the session16:58
timtetrue true16:59
rockyi dunno if z3 has anything like z2's ZCacheable stuff... not that i've used it but i assume it's specifically for this type of use case16:59
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scherandis anybody using sqlos here? i am trying to get it working but have a "ConfigurationError": http://paste.plone.org/1066817:26
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jintyscherand: get a newer mysqldbda17:27
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scherandjinty: i have version 1.0.0. the newest i could find (some weeks ago). or do i have to check it out from cvs/svn?17:29
jintyyep17:29
jintysvn is the place17:29
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scherandthank you. i will try.17:30
scherandjinty: that seems to help. zope starts again.17:47
SmokeyDhey all, with formlib is it possible to have two forms in one view? I want to have a main form that displays/edits data and a small form just for some extra interaction (like what exactly to display in the main form) In HTML/PHP i would do that by making two forms17:50
benjiyep, you can do that, SmokeyD; I don't remember how though :)17:51
SmokeyD:)17:51
SmokeyDWell, at least I know it's possible17:51
benjiSmokeyD: I have vauge reccollections of "sub page form", or something like that; let me look...17:53
benjiyeah, there's a subpageform.pt in formlib, but I don't see anything else right now17:54
floxSmokeyD: use the 'prefix' thing, too17:57
floxto not have conflict between forms17:57
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rockyit's my opinion that the formlib sub page form story needs to be better polished and documented18:06
rockyi did that a while back but now i can't even remember what i did18:06
SmokeyDok, thanks ppl. I'll look at it18:11
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SmokeyDHey, as far as you can remember, Do you add a subpageform by defininga class that inherits from SubPageForm, defining a slot in your template which will be used by the subpageform template and in the zcml adding subeditform directive to the browser:page directive?18:32
SmokeyDWhich would then mean it is only possible to add one sub page form to a form(?)18:33
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benjiSmokeyD: it's definately possible to have as many formlib forms on a page as you want, how I don't remember18:35
rockySmokeyD: i remember that it wasn't as automatic as one would like18:36
SmokeyDyou are right that it needs more documentation rocky. Neither richter nor weitershausen's books mention it as far as I can find and the apidocs also only mention the existance of a subpageform class18:38
SmokeyDbut nothing more18:38
SmokeyDhmm, I'll ask Philikon or srichter next time they're in18:38
SmokeyD:)18:38
rockySmokeyD: weitershausen's 2nd edition will cover formlib ... not sure if it covers sub forms or not18:38
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SmokeyDhmm, I'll ask Philikon, see if he has a preview available already (i've got the current edition of his book). Thanks for both your help18:40
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runyagaTheuni, ?19:53
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ignaswhy was queryView deprecated?20:08
rockyprobably in favour of queryMultiAdapter ?20:10
rockyqueryView being redundant20:10
ignaserr20:10
ignasbut what about view namespace and custom view lookup ?20:10
ignasi mean Zope publisher itself does very advanced things that are difficult to immitate in a custom traverser20:11
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ignasso any custom traverser will ignore the plugability and look up the view in a most simple way ...20:11
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rockyignas: someone else will probably have to answer your question more intelligently than me... but if by view namespace you mean layer... that's what a view is, a multi adapter for the layer/context so queryMultiAdapter should suffice20:12
ignaswhat i mean is from zope.traversing.namespace.view is the standard view lookup class20:13
ignasand yes it is doing a queryMultiAdapter20:14
ignasbut as it is a component, one would want to override it sometimes20:14
ignaswith a view lookup algorithm that is more complicated20:15
rockyah i c... i guess i don't understand how queryView would make that easier than queryMultiAdapter20:15
ignasbut the override will be ignored by most adapters that will be just using copy pasted code from the default view lookup mechanism20:15
rockybut again, my knowledge is limited20:15
ignasqueryView would lookup the ITtraversable on the given context with namespace "view"20:16
ignasand then delegate the actual view finding to it20:17
rockyahh20:17
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ignasnamespaceLookup("view", "index.html", context, request) would be way better than queryMultiAdapter20:19
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ignasnow all that is left is to convince all Zope3 developers to use it instead of queryMultiAdapter when looking up views20:22
rockylol20:23
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ignasnot funny, pluggable!20:24
ignasi am not the one who made default view traversal function that way after all ;)20:25
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