| benji | I'm really curious why I'm seeing a different error than you are | 00:00 | 
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| j2hklm4 | me too | 00:00 | 
| benji | can you pastebin your edit.pt? | 00:00 | 
| j2hklm4 | sure | 00:00 | 
| j2hklm4 | http://paste.plone.org/10968 | 00:01 | 
| benji | hmm, looks just like mine | 00:01 | 
| benji | I'm stumped, j2hklm4 | 00:04 | 
| benji | I recommend meditation and seafood. | 00:05 | 
| j2hklm4 | ok well thanks for looking into with me | 00:05 | 
| j2hklm4 | you're the best benji and the tutorial is great it's made a lot more clear to me about z3 | 00:05 | 
| timte | what does @@ in http://.../@@/someimage.png mean? | 00:10 | 
| benji | timte: @@ is a view dis-ambiguator (sp?), and @@ refers to the view with no name, which is normally used for "resources", like CSS and images | 00:11 | 
| timte | is there actually a view with no name? | 00:12 | 
| timte | or is that just some trick? | 00:12 | 
| benji | I don't think it's a "trick", just a component registration with name "" | 00:15 | 
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| j2hklm4 | benji I got it working buddy - it was a matter of adding the all the attributes to the zcml | 00:22 | 
| j2hklm4 | just a question how would I take that out of the macro context/@@standard_macros/view | 00:24 | 
| j2hklm4 | it doesn't seem to work when I run it without that macro | 00:24 | 
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| j2hklm4 | how do uncouple the metal macros from the z3 zmi ? | 02:29 | 
| j2hklm4 | I can't seem to get one to work with using metal:use-macro="context/@@standard_macros/view | 02:30 | 
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| eins | hi | 09:15 | 
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| * kobold just registered #debian-zope on OFTC, maybe someone here is interested too... | 10:51 | |
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| baijum | kobold, for discussion of debian zope related packages ? | 11:00 | 
| kobold | baijum: yeah, Debian and Ubuntu zope/plone packages. | 11:00 | 
| kobold | as well as user support for debian/ubuntu-specific problems with zope packages | 11:00 | 
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| kobold | is the zope3-dev mailing list broken or what? the web archives are still at Oct 6th. | 11:40 | 
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| d2m | kobold: seems like all of them stopped arching, the mails are available from gmane.org for example | 11:46 | 
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| ignas | is anyone working on Zope3 eggification in here at the moment ? | 15:34 | 
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| ignas | the irony of easy_install is killing me :) | 15:40 | 
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| MacYET__ | anyone in charge for webmaster@zope.org? | 18:18 | 
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| mgedmin | eh? I can't log in on zope.org | 18:33 | 
| mgedmin | either my firefox forgot my password, or something changed on the zope.org side | 18:34 | 
| J1m | MacYET__, I don't know what you are asking? | 18:36 | 
| mgedmin | duh, I'd forgotten my username | 18:37 | 
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| SmokeyD | If I wnat to do something upon deletion of an object, is there a method of the zope object I should define which will do the things? | 18:39 | 
| benji | SmokeyD: subscribe to the ObjectDeleted (or some name like that) event | 18:40 | 
| benji | it looks like it's ObjectRemoved | 18:40 | 
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| d2m | MacYET__: what about webmaster@zope.org ? (i just got a bunch of ancient mails sent from that list) | 18:42 | 
| SmokeyD | ok, thanks benji | 18:42 | 
| benji | np | 18:42 | 
| MacYET__ | yeah, just got spammed with some hundred chinese mails from the webmaster@zope.org list | 18:44 | 
| d2m | the list is stuck since a month or so (other lists stopped archiving a week ago -- i sent a mail to sysadmin to check the list states) | 18:48 | 
| SmokeyD | benj, I should register the container object of the object I'm removing for IObjectRemovedEvent right? Not the removed object itself | 18:49 | 
| SmokeyD | benj=benji | 18:49 | 
| benji | yeah, we just "fixed" that problem, so all the queued messages (99% of which were spam) were just released, you don't have to thank us | 18:49 | 
| benji | no, SmokeyD, the contaner doesn't participate in that event, just the object | 18:50 | 
| SmokeyD | ok. | 18:50 | 
| SmokeyD | didn't do much with events yet except read some about them so forgive me if my question is stupid but... | 18:51 | 
| SmokeyD | I should create a factory that will handle the event | 18:51 | 
| d2m | benji: thank you anyway, webmaster ist the only list i read though mail, nntp clients are smarter | 18:52 | 
| SmokeyD | which is not a method of the object registered for the event right? | 18:52 | 
| benji | SmokeyD: no, not a method | 18:52 | 
| benji | you need a subscriber to the ObjectRemoved event for the interface of the kind of object you want to know about | 18:52 | 
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| SmokeyD | and that same object should implement an action that is executed upon the event? Or should the action be defined elswhere? | 18:53 | 
| ignas | how does one debug Zope3 i18n mechanism, I have found out that a correct locale is negotiated with browser, but i don't know where to look next as strings are still left untranslated ... | 18:54 | 
| SmokeyD | In a separate class I mean | 18:54 | 
| benji | right, SmokeyD, your event subscriber would (normally) be a distinct object | 18:55 | 
| SmokeyD | ok | 18:55 | 
| SmokeyD | then I get it | 18:55 | 
| SmokeyD | thanks a lot | 18:55 | 
| SmokeyD | sorry for the newbie question | 18:55 | 
| mgedmin | ignas: do you know about ++lang++test in the URL? | 19:04 | 
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| SmokeyD | I'm really trying to find this out through the apidoc and sourcecode but can't find it: How do I find out which permissions the current user (self.request.principal) is granted to | 19:30 | 
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| benji | mgedmin: can you look at http://buildbot.zope.org? Those test failures appear to have been triggered by one of your checkins. | 21:21 | 
| mgedmin | looking right now | 21:21 | 
| benji | thanks | 21:21 | 
| mgedmin | Failed doctest test for zope.app.twisted.tests.test_inputbuffering | 21:22 | 
| mgedmin | hmm | 21:22 | 
| mgedmin | cannot reproduce here, will try on another machine with an older python | 21:26 | 
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| * mgedmin is proudly upholding the glorious tradition: every z3 bugfix must break something somewhere, *sigh* | 21:33 | |
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| mgedmin | benji: I cannot reproduce it with python 2.4.3 either | 21:36 | 
| mgedmin | does ./test.py -vv1 -s zope.app.twisted fail for you? | 21:36 | 
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| benji | updating my Zope to try, mgedmin | 21:37 | 
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| * mgedmin accidentally notices that 'make clean' spews an error: make: getcwd: No such file or directory | 21:40 | |
| benji | nope, mgedmin that didn't cause any failures, but add --all and it shows the same failure as buildbot | 21:42 | 
| mgedmin | aha | 21:44 | 
| mgedmin | ok, got it | 21:45 | 
| mgedmin | benji: that test fails even if I revert my checkin | 21:47 | 
| mgedmin | zope 3 trunk, my change was rev 70588 | 21:48 | 
| mgedmin | svn up -r 70587 src/zope/publisher/http.py; ./test.py -vv1 -s zope.app.twisted test_inputbuffering --all -m test_inputbuffering | 21:48 | 
| mgedmin | fails | 21:48 | 
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| mgedmin | well, at least with python 2.4.4c0 | 21:49 | 
| mgedmin | it could be that it passes with 2.3 | 21:49 | 
| mgedmin | I think I know what's happening | 21:49 | 
| mgedmin | ok, I don't know what's the proper thing to do here | 22:00 | 
| mgedmin | http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope3-dev/535 | 22:00 | 
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| mgedmin | according to the library docs, file-like objects should accept a 'size' argument to readline() | 22:00 | 
| mgedmin | zope 3 had a HTTPInputStream that didn't, and now twisted has a wsg.InputStream that doesn't | 22:01 | 
| mgedmin | wsgi | 22:01 | 
| benji | in what way does the cgi module in 2.4.4 rely on the size argument? Is it using it to guard against DOS attacks? | 22:03 | 
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| * mgedmin goes to read the sourceforge bug description | 22:03 | |
| benji | if so, if we ignore the size argument, we won't be doing anything worse than we're doing now, but it should be "fixed" at some point in the future | 22:04 | 
| benji | I'd say this is a Twisted bug that we should work around, add a XXX comment and raise the issue with Twisted | 22:05 | 
| mgedmin | "cgi.FieldStorage memory usage can spike" could be considered a DOS, I suppose | 22:07 | 
| mgedmin | ok, I'll do that | 22:07 | 
| mgedmin | http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/1451 | 22:09 | 
| mgedmin | "Opened 9 months ago | 22:10 | 
| mgedmin | Last modified 5 months ago" | 22:10 | 
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| benji | looks good, mgedmin, thanks! | 22:51 | 
| mgedmin | yay | 22:51 | 
| mgedmin | free at last! | 22:51 | 
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