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| timte | I like to configure an adapter to adapt from HTTPRequest but only if the request contain certain data. If the data isn't there the lookup shouldn't find this adapter. Is this possible to achieve? | 10:10 |
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| niemeyer | Good morning | 13:23 |
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| WebMaven | niemeyer: hello | 14:20 |
| niemeyer | WebMaven: Hi | 14:20 |
| WebMaven | niemeyer: have you used ZAlchemy to combine SQLAlchemy with Zope3? | 14:21 |
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| niemeyer | WebMaven: Nope.. we were using SQLAlchemy before we migrated into the Zope 3 transaction system. | 14:22 |
| WebMaven | niemeyer: sorry, I didn't quite understand that. | 14:23 |
| WebMaven | niemeyer: could you explain further? | 14:24 |
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| niemeyer | WebMaven: IOW, we didn't need ZAlchemy by the time we were using SQLAlchemy. | 14:25 |
| niemeyer | WebMaven: If we were using SQLAlchemy now, we'd need it. | 14:25 |
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| WebMaven | Ah, you're saying that at the time, you were using SQLAlchemy outside the Zope transaction system, but since your current code *does* use Zope transaction, you would need ZAlchemy in order to accomplish the same sort of work today. | 14:27 |
| WebMaven | Hmm. OK. | 14:27 |
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| niemeyer | WebMaven: Correct | 14:35 |
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| WebMaven | niemeyer: OK. Well, thanks for answering my question. | 14:43 |
| WebMaven | niemeyer: Do you know anyone else who might have a little experience with ZAlchemy? | 14:44 |
| niemeyer | WebMaven: I don't :( | 14:45 |
| WebMaven | OK, thanks anyway. | 14:46 |
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| ignas | are there any tutorials/examples of test layer usage to create nested functional test layers ? | 18:07 |
| ignas | i have a multi module system and i want functional test layer for let's say timetables to depend on a layer for calendaring being set up first | 18:07 |
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| timte | What method is called when you do an adapter lookup with ISomeInterface(obj) ? | 18:26 |
| timte | I thought it would be InterfaceBasePy.__call__, but it seems not. | 18:27 |
| J1m | It is if you remove the C extensions. | 18:28 |
| J1m | That method is also implemented in C and the C version is used by default. | 18:28 |
| timte | oh ok | 18:29 |
| timte | In adapter.txt it says that you can have the adapter factory return None and the adapter lookup won't choose that one. But I added a __call__ method to my adapter and it's never called. | 18:30 |
| J1m | Is __call__ the adapter factory? | 18:31 |
| J1m | Or is the class the factory? | 18:31 |
| timte | I think class is the factory, but it will call __call__ to create the instance, right? | 18:31 |
| J1m | wrong | 18:32 |
| timte | __new__? | 18:32 |
| J1m | The class itself is called. | 18:32 |
| J1m | You can read up on the semantics of that in the Python docs. :) | 18:32 |
| timte | doesn't that call the __call__ method? | 18:33 |
| J1m | RTFM | 18:33 |
| timte | ok ok ok :) | 18:33 |
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| ccomb | __new__ is called before __call__ | 18:33 |
| ccomb | non | 18:33 |
| ccomb | before __init__ | 18:33 |
| J1m | If you want to create a factory that sometimes returns None and smetimes returns an instance, I recommend writing a function and registering that. | 18:33 |
| J1m | Screwing around with __new__ is way too exotic for this use case. | 18:34 |
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| ccomb | an adapter can be either a class or a simple function, it just has to return a new object | 18:35 |
| J1m | It can be any callable. | 18:35 |
| J1m | It doesn't have to return a new object. | 18:35 |
| ccomb | in case it is a class, this is the __call_ function which is called, no? | 18:36 |
| J1m | It should either return None, or an object that provides the requested interface. | 18:36 |
| J1m | no | 18:36 |
| J1m | A __call__ method defined in a class statement is used when calling an instance of the class -- not the class. | 18:37 |
| ccomb | ok | 18:37 |
| J1m | You can register an instance as an adapter, in which case it's __call__ would be called when the adapter factory is invoked. | 18:37 |
| J1m | For all intents and purposes, when a class is called, it's __init__ is called. | 18:38 |
| J1m | anything beyond that is advanced and exotic. | 18:39 |
| ccomb | just after __new__, right ? | 18:39 |
| J1m | I'm not going to try to explain that to you -- or answer questions about it. You almost certainly do not want to know. | 18:39 |
| ccomb | ok anyone can live without __new__. | 18:40 |
| timte | J1m: thanks for explaining this, I'll use a function | 18:42 |
| J1m | cool | 18:42 |
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| replaceafill | Hi. I was wondering. Is there any way to tell EditForm that file inputs should not be required even if my object interfaces says they are? | 20:27 |
| ccomb | so you want something to be both required and not required | 20:30 |
| replaceafill | ccomb: i want my objects to have the field required, but i want the editform to give the option to upload a file, but if the user doesn't upload that's ok | 20:31 |
| ccomb | and what will be held by the file field? | 20:32 |
| replaceafill | ccomb: but if i leave the file input empty, editform complains because in my interface it's required | 20:32 |
| ccomb | can't you put a default value? | 20:33 |
| replaceafill | the file field is the widget for a Bytes field | 20:33 |
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| replaceafill | when the object is edited it already has a value for the field | 20:34 |
| replaceafill | i dont need a default for it | 20:34 |
| ccomb | no idea | 20:35 |
| replaceafill | I found a post by Martijn Faassen talking about this in the zope3-dev mailing list, but i couldn't find the solution for it | 20:35 |
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| mgedmin | hm | 20:44 |
| mgedmin | I seem to remember that both fields and widgets have a required attribute | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | mgedmin: that overrides the interface definition? | 20:45 |
| mgedmin | I do not remember | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | I found a post by mats.nordgren that uses the handle_edit_action method to do it | 20:46 |
| mgedmin | I would probably change the schema to make the field not required | 20:46 |
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| mgedmin | and implement validation separately | 20:47 |
| mgedmin | or use two different schemas: one for the object, one for the form | 20:47 |
| replaceafill | mgedmin: hhmm i see | 20:47 |
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| replaceafill | mgedmin: like overriding just that field from the schema, right? | 20:48 |
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| mgedmin | that is a possibility, but it will mess up your field order | 20:50 |
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| ccomb | Is there anything special to do to write an annotations? I'm always getting ForbiddenAttribute | 20:51 |
| ccomb | I'm playing with zblog, blogEntry is marked as IAttributeAnnotatable in zcml | 20:52 |
| ccomb | I'm getting an adapter : annotations = IAnnotations(self.context) | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | ccomb: maybe it's a missing require directive | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | ccomb: or the adapter should be trusted? | 20:52 |
| ccomb | on which interface ? | 20:52 |
| ccomb | yes, this is from an adapter, should I set it trusted ? | 20:53 |
| replaceafill | dont know, im just saying that that's what i look for when i get ForbiddenAttribute errors | 20:53 |
| ccomb | yes it works, thanks | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | ccomb: what was it? just for curiousity :D | 21:00 |
| ccomb | but is it secure? | 21:00 |
| ccomb | I've added trusted="yes" in my zcml adapter declaration | 21:02 |
| ccomb | <zope:adapter | 21:02 |
| ccomb | factory=".category.AnnotationCategorizable" | 21:02 |
| ccomb | provides=".interfaces.ICategories" | 21:02 |
| ccomb | for=".interfaces.IAnnotationCategorizable" | 21:02 |
| ccomb | trusted="yes" | 21:02 |
| ccomb | /> | 21:02 |
| ccomb | I'm trying to add category management to zblog | 21:02 |
| ccomb | with two implementations, one in a category attribute, one in the annotations | 21:03 |
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| harobed | ccomb: tu es là ? | 21:16 |
| ccomb | oui | 21:16 |
| harobed | je suis en train d'expérimenter de mon coté | 21:16 |
| harobed | tu me donneras ton code après | 21:16 |
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| harobed | voici le code source de mon interface : http://pastebin.com/855318 | 21:20 |
| harobed | sorry, it's bad channel | 21:20 |
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| jodok | is there something like structured-text-header-level 2 in the zope.conf for z3? | 22:33 |
| projekt01 | jodok, hi, what's that? | 22:34 |
| jodok | hey projekt01 :) | 22:34 |
| jodok | it defines where the rest parser starts when generating html | 22:34 |
| jodok | e.g. H1 is the title of the page and rest should start at h2 | 22:34 |
| projekt01 | I guess there is no configuration in zope.conf for specific packages. | 22:35 |
| jodok | i'm grep'ing :) | 22:38 |
| projekt01 | jodok, we used docutil outside z3 and there is a docutils.conf which you can define variabels for e.g. stylesheet-path etc. perhaps this is where you can take a look at | 22:39 |
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