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| WebMaven | J1m: I am getting an error now in my buildoutification: | 00:14 |
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| WebMaven | zc.buildout.easy_install: Getting new distribution for ZODB3 | 00:14 |
| WebMaven | package init file 'src/ZEO/scripts/__init__.py' not found (or not a regular file) | 00:14 |
| WebMaven | package init file 'src/ZEO/scripts/__init__.py' not found (or not a regular file) | 00:14 |
| WebMaven | package init file 'src/ZEO/scripts/__init__.py' not found (or not a regular file) | 00:14 |
| WebMaven | Creating missing __init__.py for ZEO.scripts | 00:14 |
| WebMaven | zc.buildout.easy_install: Got ZODB3 3.8.0a1.dev-r72813 | 00:14 |
| J1m | That is a warning | 00:15 |
| J1m | not an error | 00:15 |
| WebMaven | sorry. I should have been more precise. | 00:15 |
| J1m | I'll fix it when I make the next release. | 00:15 |
| WebMaven | OK. | 00:16 |
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| philiKON | WebMaven: you guys are keeping busy, eh? | 06:39 |
| WebMaven | Well, I am. | 06:39 |
| WebMaven | Christian went to bed. | 06:40 |
| WebMaven | I'm about done for today. | 06:42 |
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| WebMaven | I've just done the last of the packages that were designated as a higher priority (other than zope.testbrowser), so I think I'll do something else tomorrow. It's only going to be a half-day, as I have to leave for the airport around 1pm. | 06:44 |
| philiKON | wow, colloquy crashed | 06:44 |
| philiKON | sorry, only caught your last line | 06:44 |
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| WebMaven | last line? | 07:03 |
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| ChrisW | hey all, what's the difference between an OOSet and an OOTreeSet? | 14:40 |
| timte | could it have to do something with None being allowed as key or something? just a wild guess | 14:48 |
| ChrisW | I'd hope the difference isn't that trivial | 14:49 |
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| ChrisW | I'm hoping OOTreeSets don't store their whole contents in the ZODB when a value changes | 14:49 |
| ChrisW | (I'm assuming that's what OOSets do) | 14:49 |
| ChrisW | however, OOTreeSets don't seem to be iterable, so I'm a little confused as to how you're supposed to use them... | 14:49 |
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| rocky | are there any decent docs any place for getting started with creating my own layer? | 15:10 |
| rocky | test layer that is | 15:10 |
| mgedmin | m | 15:12 |
| mgedmin | src/zope/testing/testrunner-layers.txt, IIRC | 15:13 |
| mgedmin | although it's more of a test than a doc | 15:13 |
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| ignas | what precisely queryNextUtility does ? | 18:54 |
| philiKON | gets a utility from the next site manager | 18:55 |
| philiKON | i believe | 18:55 |
| ignas | ahhh | 18:55 |
| philiKON | where next is not the current one | 18:55 |
| philiKON | :) | 18:55 |
| ignas | next site manager | 18:55 |
| ignas | :/ | 18:55 |
| ignas | Zope3 authentication seems unpluggable :/ | 18:55 |
| philiKON | how so? | 18:55 |
| ignas | i want to avoid local utilites and not use overrides while have my own authentication utility | 18:56 |
| ignas | ;) | 18:56 |
| philiKON | um, okk | 18:57 |
| philiKON | what seems to be the problem? | 18:57 |
| ignas | well - the only way to override Zope3 utility is using zcml overrides or by having a local one | 18:57 |
| ignas | and i can't override it again if i want to | 18:58 |
| ignas | but i can make my first (local utility) pluggable on itself | 18:58 |
| ignas | problem is - zcml overrides do not stack (iirc) | 18:58 |
| philiKON | sure they do | 18:58 |
| philiKON | you can have overrides in overides | 18:58 |
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| ignas | so if i have override in schooltool.app and i want to override that override in schooltool.ldap both of which are included in the same level in schooltool/configure.zcml | 18:59 |
| ignas | i do what? :) | 19:00 |
| philiKON | inside schooltool.ldap/overrides.zcml you do <includeOverrides="stronger_overrides.zcml" /> | 19:00 |
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| ignas | philiKON: eek | 19:01 |
| philiKON | :) | 19:01 |
| ignas | but nice to know it can be done this way | 19:01 |
| philiKON | hey, i just said it's possible | 19:01 |
| ignas | :) | 19:01 |
| philiKON | i still havent' understood your problem completely | 19:02 |
| philiKON | but perhaps that's me | 19:02 |
| ignas | at leas i understood it while explaining it ;) | 19:02 |
| benji | WebMaven: I've worn Jim down, the tack we're going to take with bootstrap.py is to leave it out of the individual projects and tell people to fetch it when they need it (wget or svn checkout) | 19:03 |
| Theuni | benji: hmm | 19:05 |
| WebMaven | I hope you don't mind if I decline to remove the files myself right now. | 19:05 |
| benji | that's cool | 19:05 |
| WebMaven | I leave in two hours | 19:05 |
| Theuni | benji: so you think it's not worth it providing the convenience to people? | 19:05 |
| benji | to me the trade off of "download it if you need it" with "it won't be duplicated everywhere" is a win; combine that with the relatively rarity of needing it, it seems like a good tradeoff | 19:07 |
| philiKON | the download URL should then at least be mentioned in a README.txt in every checkout | 19:09 |
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| benji | that would be reasonable philiKON; especially since that README will likely be the project's homepage on pypi | 19:14 |
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| philiKON | benji: right | 19:31 |
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| timte | has anyone done anything with nntp support for zope? | 19:36 |
| philiKON | yeah, i've seen thsi once | 19:39 |
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| timte | I copied the ftp files, directories and classes and renamed them to nntp. So I think the twisted part is working, but I'm not sure how to proceed with the publishing. | 19:40 |
| philiKON | what i've seen was done in zope 2 | 19:41 |
| philiKON | twisted integration, cool | 19:41 |
| philiKON | what do you mean, publishing? | 19:41 |
| philiKON | call zope.publisher.publish.publish() :) | 19:42 |
| philiKON | (with whatever it expects, i think an environment and an input stream or so | 19:42 |
| philiKON | ) | 19:42 |
| timte | I guess I need some traversal adapters. | 19:42 |
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| philiKON | could be, yes | 19:44 |
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| timte | I have the big problem that I have thousands of project I want to work on. I try to work on every one, so the result is collapse and nada of anything. | 19:47 |
| timte | today I got a new idea I want to work on :/ | 19:49 |
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| WebMaven | benji: have you looked at the testbrowser issue yet? | 19:56 |
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| benji | WebMaven: sorrty, been to busy with post-PyCon catch-up | 20:14 |
| faassen | benji: how as PyCon? | 20:14 |
| faassen | benji: massive, I heard. | 20:14 |
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| faassen | benji: you tell me later, got to go. :) | 20:21 |
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| itamar | hey | 20:44 |
| itamar | I keep forgetting to tell you guys about pydoctor | 20:44 |
| itamar | do you know about pydoctor? | 20:44 |
| timte | I don't, what's that? | 20:44 |
| itamar | docstrong API generator that knows about zope.interface | 20:45 |
| itamar | docstring, rather | 20:45 |
| itamar | http://codespeak.net/~mwh/pydoctor/ | 20:45 |
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| timte | cool | 20:46 |
| timte | let's bring up api.zope.org :) | 20:47 |
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| timte | itamar: didn't twisted use this for a long long time already? | 20:51 |
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| itamar | yes | 20:52 |
| itamar | but like I said, I keep forgetting to ask if you guys know about it | 20:52 |
| itamar | anyway | 20:52 |
| itamar | bye | 20:52 |
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| rocky | hrm, in formlib is there anyway to tell a particular action defined in a PageForm to ignore all standard validation ? (ie i have a cancel button and i don't want it to check to see if the schema-defined required fields are set) | 21:25 |
| * rocky suspects there is a simple way but he's too dense to find it | 21:25 | |
| mgedmin | rocky: pass in a validator that returns an empty list | 21:25 |
| mgedmin | @form.action("Cancel", validator=lambda *args: ()) | 21:25 |
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| rocky | oh ic | 21:26 |
| rocky | since the default validator of an action is the schema field validator | 21:26 |
| rocky | perfect, works, thanks | 21:27 |
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