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baijum | I was trying to run zwiki (Zope 3 based) using buildout & eggs, I am getting this error: http://zope3.pastey.net/10028 any idea ? | 15:36 |
benji | baijum: just a wild guess, but it looks like your missing a package or aren't executing it's zcml | 15:38 |
baijum | benji, yes, some component registration is missing... | 15:39 |
benji | sorry, pretty obvious but that's all the help I have | 15:40 |
baijum | benji, thanks ! I will find out that | 15:41 |
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* baijum think it will be difficult for application developers to switch to egg based system because of this registration missing..finding out the exact package will be difficult..they were getting some stuff for free from somewhere... | 15:44 | |
srichter | baijum: doesn't the egg install the ZCML slug at the correct location? | 15:45 |
srichter | baijum: you are missing the zope.app.renderer package | 15:46 |
baijum | srichter, when using buildout we are creating a zite.zcml from scratch | 15:46 |
baijum | atleast the zc.zope3recipes | 15:46 |
srichter | ok, but how does it know which package ZCML files to include? | 15:46 |
srichter | is there no package-includes anymore? | 15:46 |
baijum | no | 15:47 |
srichter | ok, so all ZCML files are listed in site.zcml? | 15:47 |
baijum | yes | 15:47 |
baijum | one of the goal of zc.zope3recipes is to avoid package-includes | 15:47 |
baijum | I am not sure how this is going to work for newbies | 15:48 |
srichter | I am not sure I like that; it seems very brittle to me | 15:48 |
srichter | so whenever I install a new package that has a ZCML file or two (meta.zcml and configure.zcml), the recipe has to regenerate the site.zcml | 15:48 |
srichter | and what if I have modified it? | 15:49 |
srichter | I think we are taking a big step back here | 15:49 |
baijum | srichter, site.zcml includes standard packages | 15:49 |
baijum | not writing everything from scratch.. | 15:49 |
srichter | so where will new 3rd-party ZCML slugs be referenced? | 15:50 |
baijum | no way, I think, modify site.zcml | 15:50 |
benji | I'm not that familiar with the recipe in quesion, but one of the base ideas of the buildout is that you don't modify things it generates | 15:50 |
srichter | ok | 15:51 |
srichter | so I did not modify it | 15:51 |
srichter | still, how is my package's ZCML added? | 15:51 |
baijum | You can sepecify the zite.zcml in buildout.cfg | 15:52 |
srichter | there are two cases: (1) My package is an egg and plays nice with the new system, and (2) I have not yet made an egg for the package and I do not want to manage the slugs by hand | 15:52 |
benji | by adding the package to the buildout's config | 15:52 |
srichter | benji: does this work for case 2 as well? | 15:53 |
benji | yep; for example if your package is just a svn external | 15:53 |
baijum | srichter, I am talking about that specifig recipe, not buildout in general, we can create another recipe for supporting those use cases, I think | 15:53 |
srichter | benji: ok, I see | 15:54 |
srichter | I really need to understand the workflow with eggs, moving to develop eggs moving back to eggs | 15:55 |
dobee | srichter: i started to create application packages/eggs, that contain the size.zcml and define the deps there. you can the use zope3reciepes to create a devel instance or a deployment environment | 15:58 |
srichter | dobee: you surely plan to publish a TODO/blog on how to do that any time soon, right? :-) | 15:59 |
* baijum including zope.app.renderer in site.zcml solved my zwiki problem, thanks srichter ! | 15:59 | |
dobee | srichter: yes of course | 15:59 |
srichter | dobee: cool, let me know when it is available, please :-) | 16:00 |
srichter | baijum: you are welcome | 16:00 |
dobee | srichter: jodok already told me that i have to do this ;-) | 16:00 |
dobee | srichter: ok | 16:00 |
baijum | dobee, that would be great ! | 16:00 |
baijum | srichter, may be you can have a look at : svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zwiki/branches/baijum-experimental-zwiki (it's buildoutified) | 16:04 |
* baijum just finished it | 16:04 | |
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* baijum for those who looks at baijum-experimental-zwiki, I fogot to commit two ftests related files, now committed r73981 | 16:13 | |
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philiKON_ | baijum: cool, will take a look later | 16:58 |
philiKON_ | baijum: i'm very interested in installing zope 3 from eggs | 16:58 |
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harobed | philiKON_: congratulation about the second release of your book | 17:02 |
philiKON_ | thx | 17:02 |
harobed | philiKON_: have you third version in your roadmap ? | 17:04 |
philiKON_ | maybe at some point | 17:04 |
philiKON_ | nothing that's pressing right now | 17:04 |
philiKON_ | the 2nd edition is quite up to date :) | 17:04 |
harobed | addone about zalchemy, egg... :) | 17:05 |
harobed | I very like the box about "Rocky say..." (java) | 17:05 |
philiKON_ | eggs are discussed | 17:05 |
philiKON_ | chapter 24 | 17:05 |
philiKON_ | alchemy still needs a bit more work before i document it in a book | 17:06 |
harobed | ok, sorry, I haven't read all yet | 17:06 |
philiKON_ | integration into zope 3, that is | 17:06 |
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