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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:54 |
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| goschtl | hi, is it possible to use the lovely.viewcache suite in a plone/five environment? | 13:38 |
| timte | not sure if anyone tried | 13:40 |
| timte | does intid utility work with plone/five? | 13:40 |
| timte | intid is used frequently in lovely.viewcache | 13:40 |
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| goschtl | timte: i belive it exists a five.initid thing | 13:43 |
| timte | the imports will be wrong then | 13:43 |
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| Theuni | jukart: ping | 14:21 |
| jukart | Theuni: pong | 14:22 |
| Theuni | I'm working with zalchemy right now. | 14:23 |
| Theuni | I'm working on an automatic mapper between sqlalchemy.types to zope.schema | 14:23 |
| jukart | cool | 14:23 |
| Theuni | is there any previous work on this? | 14:24 |
| jukart | no | 14:24 |
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| Theuni | otherwise i'll try to build it and offer it for inclusion to zalchemy | 14:24 |
| Theuni | alright. | 14:24 |
| jukart | very good | 14:25 |
| lurker | Theuni: did you see Andreas' z3c.sqlalchemy? | 14:30 |
| lurker | and then there is Kapil's alchemist | 14:31 |
| Theuni | partially, it didn't look like i wanted to use it | 14:31 |
| lurker | ;) | 14:32 |
| Theuni | alchemist looks like a plone product | 14:32 |
| Theuni | but it does the schema mapping | 14:33 |
| * Theuni goes off stealing | 14:33 | |
| Theuni | s/stealing/inspiring/ | 14:33 |
| Theuni | alchemist has a translation thing. | 14:38 |
| Theuni | hmm | 14:38 |
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| Theuni | maaan | 14:44 |
| Theuni | alchemist is gpl | 14:44 |
| Theuni | i hate that | 14:44 |
| Theuni | :q | 14:44 |
| philiKON | Theuni: talk to kapil | 14:45 |
| philiKON | Theuni: i think he'll glady give you the code | 14:46 |
| philiKON | also, he might even make it more generic | 14:46 |
| philiKON | he digs zope3 nowadays :) | 14:46 |
| Theuni | the module that is there is pretty usable already | 14:46 |
| Theuni | it doesn't depend on anything else | 14:46 |
| philiKON | make it a separate egg :) | 14:47 |
| philiKON | that could even be gpl ;) | 14:47 |
| Theuni | egg-frenzy ;) | 14:47 |
| Theuni | every module its own egg | 14:47 |
| * Theuni goes to find kapil | 14:48 | |
| philiKON | hazmat: ping :) | 14:48 |
| Theuni | ah. that's his nick :() | 14:49 |
| * Theuni is typoing a lot today | 14:49 | |
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| hazmat | philiKON, ping | 15:32 |
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| hazmat | Theuni, ore.alchemist doesn't do any plone z2 deps | 15:32 |
| hazmat | afaik | 15:33 |
| hazmat | all that is in a separate z2 product that also adds in some basic container (zc.table based) and views | 15:33 |
| hazmat | based on formlib | 15:33 |
| Theuni | hmm | 15:33 |
| Theuni | would you consider making an egg release out of ore.alchemist? | 15:34 |
| hazmat | well can you be clear on what is you want?.. an egg, in zope svn, or with license change? | 15:34 |
| Theuni | I want to be able to use it in my project. For that I'd be happy to use GPL software, if it's available via as an egg. | 15:35 |
| hazmat | philiKON, utilities are common defined as context independent? | 15:35 |
| Theuni | s/via as/as/ | 15:35 |
| hazmat | i'm leaning to changing the license as well fwiw ;-) | 15:35 |
| Theuni | I found a few oddities in the sa2zs module btw ... | 15:35 |
| Theuni | heh ... i wouldn't *oppose* a license change, but it's not my main motivation :) | 15:35 |
| hazmat | Theuni, such as? | 15:36 |
| philiKON | hazmat: yeah | 15:37 |
| Theuni | There is an `annotations` variable that falls back to to be a dict, however, later it is used with attribute accesses | 15:37 |
| Theuni | also your coding style is weird :) | 15:37 |
| Theuni | and you ahve a pdb post-mortem thing in the code that jumps in when a transmutation fails | 15:37 |
| Theuni | after that it worked for me ;) | 15:37 |
| philiKON | sounds like hazmat has got himself a contributor ;) | 15:37 |
| * philiKON goes off to take a nappy-nap | 15:38 | |
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| hazmat | Theuni, post mortem is a stray error, should raise, will fix momentarily | 15:39 |
| hazmat | Theuni, the annotation, has direct attributes but column info is stored via mapping interface since not all column names maybe be valid python identifiers | 15:40 |
| hazmat | dig the keyreference support as well ;-) | 15:41 |
| hazmat | committed fix on pdb | 15:45 |
| hazmat | Theuni, btw. in general its a little easier (less code) going the other way from zope.schema to rdb.. if your not supporting an existing db | 15:45 |
| hazmat | the annotation stuff gets a little tedious.. there is a complete example though here.. | 15:46 |
| hazmat | https://svn.objectrealms.net/view/public/browser/ore.alchemist/examples/orgpeople/interfaces.py | 15:46 |
| Theuni | hmm. i'm using this for a transitional period anyway | 15:48 |
| hazmat | although the ui for that is based on the z2 product support.. if you want to backport some of the alchemist z2 product work on formlib that would be nice.. | 15:49 |
| hazmat | i'll put together an egg | 15:49 |
| Theuni | we have to support a large existing database and i'm only interested in the mapping for now so we can start moving to hand-written schemata when we need them | 15:49 |
| Theuni | i'll help out if i find something, though. | 15:49 |
| * hazmat wonders how to specify egg dependencies... | 15:51 | |
| hazmat | i've got one in there that goes to zope.app.container.interfaces.IContainer | 15:51 |
| Theuni | here's an example setup.py: | 15:52 |
| Theuni | http://svn.zope.org/z3c.sqlalchemy/trunk/setup.py?rev=73848&view=auto | 15:52 |
| Theuni | look at the install_requires | 15:52 |
| Theuni | if you need IContainer, you will do install_requires=['zope.app.container'] | 15:52 |
| hazmat | yeah.. but reality is.. that pulls in way too much | 15:52 |
| Theuni | for now | 15:52 |
| Theuni | it will get better | 15:52 |
| hazmat | its really just zope.schema, zope.interface, zope.component | 15:52 |
| Theuni | hopefully the dependencies on zope.app.container aren't really that bad and as soon as we clean up those egg dependencies it will be less annoying | 15:53 |
| hazmat | icontainer stuff is to support this notion i had of building apps via stamping generic alchemist containers with app specific intefaces | 15:53 |
| hazmat | okay | 15:53 |
| hazmat | btw. do we get an alphaflow z3 rewrite this year? ;-) | 15:53 |
| Theuni | heh | 15:53 |
| Theuni | almost | 15:53 |
| Theuni | we're working on alphaflow 2 that uses zope 3 technologies | 15:53 |
| Theuni | but we can't get away from archetypes that easily and that binds us to the AT hell for now :/ | 15:54 |
| hazmat | cool.. as long as you can ditch the at specific integration layers.. that would make it much easier | 15:54 |
| hazmat | oh | 15:54 |
| Theuni | haha :) | 15:54 |
| Theuni | I'd *LOVE* to. | 15:54 |
| hazmat | do you really need support that can't be adapted to? | 15:54 |
| Theuni | Not sure. The main issue is that we have (real-)time constraints of getting this done. Hopefully we're moving in the right direction to make it easier to get away from AT in the future. | 15:55 |
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| replicant | understood | 16:01 |
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| Theuni | :) | 16:01 |
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| haz-mac | Theuni, uploaded to pypi | 16:14 |
| Theuni | yay! | 16:14 |
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| softdevr | is the request object the same in zope 3 as in zope 2? | 17:37 |
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| timte | softdevr: no it's not | 17:41 |
| softdevr | I can't find documentation describing the structure of a request, specifically how to access uploaded files | 17:42 |
| softdevr | apidoc is vague about BrowserRequest | 17:42 |
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| Theuni | softdevr: file uploads are available im request.form as cgi FileUpload objects | 17:45 |
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| Theuni | haz-mac: thanks. that egg works like a charm. | 17:47 |
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| softdevr | apidoc mentions FieldStorage | 17:50 |
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| Theuni | ah right. fieldstorage me bad | 17:58 |
| Theuni | almost the same difference | 17:58 |
| Theuni | fieldstorage should have a 'file' attribute | 17:59 |
| Theuni | checkout python's cgi module | 17:59 |
| Theuni | that's where fieldstorage is defined | 17:59 |
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| runyaga | do zeoclients have a timeout variable? | 18:34 |
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| Theuni | timeout for what? | 18:37 |
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| Theuni | in the zope.conf schema i only see the disconnect polling times | 18:38 |
| Theuni | which are not timeouts | 18:38 |
| Theuni | so i guess they rely on your systems tcp timeouts | 18:39 |
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| Theuni | darn | 19:17 |
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| Theuni | i ran into some weirdness with custom traversal code | 19:17 |
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| Theuni | i registered a traverser for an object (which is an unnamed publisher view) and now all the /@@/ views try to use that view :/ | 19:18 |
| Theuni | if i explicitly spell out ++resource++resourcename than the traversal works | 19:18 |
| Theuni | just the shortcut is gone | 19:18 |
| Theuni | hm. ah. that might conflict with some site-mangling i've been doing | 19:20 |
| Theuni | jup. hmm | 19:21 |
| * Theuni scratches his head. | 19:21 | |
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| mgedmin | so, I want to change the CSS class of a button rendered with formlib actions | 21:38 |
| mgedmin | what's the best way? subclass form.Action? | 21:38 |
| mgedmin | provide a custom named template? | 21:38 |
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| philiKON_ | mgedmin: override the 'render' named template for IAction | 22:15 |
| mgedmin | I would need to do that with zcml overrides? | 22:15 |
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| mgedmin | it sort of appears to me that subclassing form.Action and form.action is the easier way | 22:18 |
| mgedmin | well, other than adding this feature to zope.formlib core and backporting it to zope 3.2 | 22:19 |
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| mgedmin | aaargh, my brain has gone for a long walk | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | I've started using metal macros with tal:replace="context/@@macros/macroname" | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | unsuprisingly this renders a long list of nested tuples into the body of my page | 22:33 |
| mgedmin | and this after I've already copied and pasted the wrong line into 20 .pt files | 22:33 |
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| philiKON_ | mgedmin: TAL bytecode is fun :) | 22:41 |
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