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| runyaga | hi | 00:38 |
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| runyaga | in zeo monitor what does active transactions: -1 mean? | 00:38 |
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| stub | Is Zope 3.4 development still on the trunk? | 06:51 |
| baijum | stub, yup | 06:58 |
| stub | Just skimming the (sadly neglected) dev mailing list | 06:58 |
| stub | Is releasing eggified Z3.4 going ahead? I want to know if I should update pytz on the trunk, or remove it so the standard egg can be used. | 06:59 |
| baijum | stub, there will be both egg and zpkg based releases | 07:03 |
| baijum | stub, so please update pytz in trunk | 07:03 |
| stub | ok | 07:04 |
| baijum | GSoC project list out: http://code.google.com/soc/zope/about.html | 07:08 |
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| baijum | philiKON_, ping ? | 07:51 |
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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:58 |
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| timte | grr, why does the svn co url have to be different than the url you use to browse the repository? | 11:25 |
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| ignas | is setSite(some_site) in a doctest cleaned up by placelessTeardown ? | 13:26 |
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| ignas | isn't ObjectModifiedEvent fired automagically every time i change the object? | 14:27 |
| ignas | or do i have to notify(ObjectModifiedEvent(object)) every time i want something to be done upon attribute changes etc. ? | 14:28 |
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| philiKON | ignas: you have to do it yourself | 14:31 |
| ignas | ouch | 14:31 |
| philiKON | ignas: the rule is: | 14:31 |
| philiKON | well, the rule for all objectevents is: | 14:31 |
| philiKON | if you do something to an object, you should send the appropriate event | 14:31 |
| philiKON | there's no magic | 14:31 |
| ignas | well - object added events are abstracted away with BTreeContainers sending them iirc | 14:32 |
| ignas | object removed events as well | 14:32 |
| philiKON | containers send the events for you, yes | 14:32 |
| philiKON | that's an exception | 14:32 |
| philiKON | and you could argue that the container changes itself | 14:32 |
| philiKON | :) | 14:32 |
| ignas | when having 3 events (added, modified, removed) | 14:32 |
| ignas | 2 of them being exceptions to the Rule :D | 14:32 |
| philiKON | err, you could argue that the container changes the object, not you | 14:32 |
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| philiKON | you just happen to pick 3 arbitrary events | 14:33 |
| philiKON | there's actually a sense to containers sending those events | 14:33 |
| philiKON | because containers change the object | 14:33 |
| philiKON | they add __parent__ and __name__ | 14:33 |
| philiKON | you don't do that | 14:33 |
| philiKON | the container does it | 14:33 |
| philiKON | that's why it sends the event | 14:33 |
| philiKON | it actually "adds" it and "removes" it | 14:33 |
| ignas | yeah i understand, just that if you don't know this path of reasoning you don't think that you have to send Modified events | 14:35 |
| ignas | i mean - it's something that makes sense when you know what's under the abstraction | 14:35 |
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| Theuni_ | hazmat: ping | 16:30 |
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| Theuni_ | hazmat: what's your email? | 17:37 |
| timte | that's a rather slow conversation :) | 17:41 |
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| hazmat | Theuni_, hazmat@objectrealms.net or kapilt@gmail.com | 17:46 |
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| Theuni_ | thanks | 18:09 |
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| philiKON | OT: how would i strip trailing whitespace from a bunch of files on the unix command line? | 20:39 |
| * philiKON wonders if he needs to write a Python program for that :) | 20:39 | |
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| ignas | philiKON: use emacs :D | 20:48 |
| philiKON | i need to automate the process | 20:48 |
| ignas | philiKON: no really, emacs supports batch operation | 20:48 |
| philiKON | i know how to do in emacs | 20:48 |
| philiKON | hrm | 20:48 |
| benji | philiKON: pipe them through sed, something like (untested): sed 's/[ \t]*$//' | 20:51 |
| ignas | emacs --batch --file tt.lisp --eval "(progn (delete-trailing-whitespace) (save-buffer))" | 20:51 |
| philiKON | yes, yes, battle of the tools! | 20:51 |
| * benji suspects philiKON is a fan of ultimate fighting ;) | 20:52 | |
| * philiKON wonders if he should dump the build process consisting of gnu make, imagemagick, xsltproc, ... and just use Python (+PIL, lxml, ...) | 20:52 | |
| benji | yes | 20:53 |
| philiKON | some other lifetime | 20:53 |
| benji | heh :) | 20:53 |
| philiKON | btw, apple's FileMerge is pretty cool. hooray for XCode | 20:55 |
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| philiKON | benji: thanks, it seems to work | 21:02 |
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| philiKON | benji: trivia; sed doesn't understand \t | 22:10 |
| philiKON | benji: you have to pass it a physical tab character | 22:10 |
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| benji | philiKON: it depends on your shell, you have to spell "\t" however your shell would like | 22:50 |
| philiKON | in this case my shell is make :/ | 22:50 |
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