IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2007-04-12

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runyagahi00:38
runyagain zeo monitor what does active transactions: -1 mean?00:38
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stubIs Zope 3.4 development still on the trunk?06:51
baijumstub, yup06:58
stubJust skimming the (sadly neglected) dev mailing list06:58
stubIs releasing eggified Z3.4 going ahead? I want to know if I should update pytz on the trunk, or remove it so the standard egg can be used.06:59
baijumstub, there will be both egg and zpkg based releases07:03
baijumstub, so please update pytz in trunk07:03
stubok07:04
baijumGSoC project list out: http://code.google.com/soc/zope/about.html07:08
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baijumphiliKON_, ping ?07:51
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romanofskimoin :)09:58
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timtegrr, why does the svn co url have to be different than the url you use to browse the repository?11:25
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ignasis setSite(some_site) in a doctest cleaned up by placelessTeardown ?13:26
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ignasisn't ObjectModifiedEvent fired automagically every time i change the object?14:27
ignasor do i have to notify(ObjectModifiedEvent(object)) every time i want something to be done upon attribute changes etc. ?14:28
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philiKONignas: you have to do it yourself14:31
ignasouch14:31
philiKONignas: the rule is:14:31
philiKONwell, the rule for all objectevents is:14:31
philiKONif you do something to an object, you should send the appropriate event14:31
philiKONthere's no magic14:31
ignaswell - object added events are abstracted away with BTreeContainers sending them iirc14:32
ignasobject removed events as well14:32
philiKONcontainers send the events for you, yes14:32
philiKONthat's an exception14:32
philiKONand you could argue that the container changes itself14:32
philiKON:)14:32
ignaswhen having 3 events (added, modified, removed)14:32
ignas2 of them being exceptions to the Rule :D14:32
philiKONerr, you could argue that the container changes the object, not you14:32
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philiKONyou just happen to pick 3 arbitrary events14:33
philiKONthere's actually a sense to containers sending those events14:33
philiKONbecause containers change the object14:33
philiKONthey add __parent__ and __name__14:33
philiKONyou don't do that14:33
philiKONthe container does it14:33
philiKONthat's why it sends the event14:33
philiKONit actually "adds" it and "removes" it14:33
ignasyeah i understand, just that if you don't know this path of reasoning you don't think that you have to send Modified events14:35
ignasi mean - it's something that makes sense when you know what's under the abstraction14:35
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Theuni_hazmat: ping16:30
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hazmatTheuni_, pong17:06
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Theuni_hazmat: what's your email?17:37
timtethat's a rather slow conversation  :)17:41
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hazmatTheuni_, hazmat@objectrealms.net or kapilt@gmail.com17:46
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Theuni_thanks18:09
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philiKONOT: how would i strip trailing whitespace from a bunch of files on the unix command line?20:39
* philiKON wonders if he needs to write a Python program for that :)20:39
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ignasphiliKON: use emacs :D20:48
philiKONi need to automate the process20:48
ignasphiliKON: no really, emacs supports batch operation20:48
philiKONi know how to do in emacs20:48
philiKONhrm20:48
benjiphiliKON: pipe them through sed, something like (untested): sed 's/[ \t]*$//'20:51
ignasemacs --batch --file tt.lisp --eval "(progn (delete-trailing-whitespace) (save-buffer))"20:51
philiKONyes, yes, battle of the tools!20:51
* benji suspects philiKON is a fan of ultimate fighting ;)20:52
* philiKON wonders if he should dump the build process consisting of gnu make, imagemagick, xsltproc, ... and just use Python (+PIL, lxml, ...)20:52
benjiyes20:53
philiKONsome other lifetime20:53
benjiheh :)20:53
philiKONbtw, apple's FileMerge is pretty cool. hooray for XCode20:55
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philiKONbenji: thanks, it seems to work21:02
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philiKONbenji: trivia; sed doesn't understand \t22:10
philiKONbenji: you have to pass it a physical tab character22:10
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benjiphiliKON: it depends on your shell, you have to spell "\t" however your shell would like22:50
philiKONin this case my shell is make :/22:50
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