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| sm | man this is a hassle | 00:17 |
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| pbugni | can you alter the format of the strings on the backend all at once? | 00:17 |
| * pbugni doesn't have an understanding of what you're up to | 00:17 | |
| sm | I'm doing stuff like tal:content="structure python:here.lastauthor".. and if the author's name has some non-ascii or non-system-default-encoding characters in it, the template breaks | 00:20 |
| sm | to I'm currently adding a conversion to all of these, eg: structure python:here.talsafe(here.lastauthor) | 00:21 |
| sm | which does the right thing depending on zope version | 00:21 |
| sm | but still all the existing wikis out there with customized templates are going to break when zope is upgraded to 2.10 | 00:22 |
| pbugni | how about a patch to 2.10 structure that tries other encodings if ascii fails? is your case unique? (utf-8) ? | 00:23 |
| sm | monkey patch zope 2.10 eh.. | 00:25 |
| pbugni | dunno - those words scare me :) | 00:25 |
| sm | I guess it's either that, or users have to deal with this (updating their templates) | 00:25 |
| * sm feels icky | 00:25 | |
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| sm | well, looks like http://zwiki.org/1330 is resolved.. thanks for the advice, all | 01:30 |
| sm | see you | 01:30 |
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| cr3 | if I want to learn how to use zope.app.folder, for example, what is the recommended process for understanding what's going on? | 02:32 |
| pbugni | that's a pretty broad q, cr3. books? docFinderTab? GIYF? | 02:34 |
| cr3 | pbugni: yeah, it's just a recurring problem I have that everytime I try to integrate some new cool z3 feature, it takes forever to understand what I'm doing | 02:34 |
| cr3 | pbugni: I was hoping that the z3-dev folks might have a process, short of already knowing all the codebase :) | 02:36 |
| pbugni | y, i know the feeling. one great pattern is looking at how it is used to date | 02:36 |
| cr3 | pbugni: oh, learning by example is great, but I can't find examples most of the time and Google only return svn commits when searching :) | 02:37 |
| pbugni | you might just want to pull down from svn several projects, etc. | 02:37 |
| pbugni | then you can grep around there | 02:37 |
| cr3 | pbugni: hm, cool suggestion, I will take you up on that one. thanks! | 02:38 |
| cr3 | pbugni: heh, grepping through the bugtracker project I found that zope.app.file was exactly NOT what I was looking for :) at least that's a start | 02:40 |
| pbugni | heh | 02:41 |
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| cr3 | pbugni: I have a feeling there might be a better way than hoping to find sample code, I'm sure it's possible to understand those packages without having to read all the code. | 02:57 |
| cr3 | don't get me wrong though, reading all the code can be a nice thing, but a luxury not everyone can afford | 02:57 |
| pbugni | well - there is supposed to be a much better emphasis on unit tests this round. You may do well to look there as well. i.e. doc tests are especially good for explaining what's going on, and showing some sample usage | 02:58 |
| pbugni | of course, if someone else here has some suggestions ... :) | 02:58 |
| pbugni | cr3: in case that didn't make any sense - you'll find doctests in .txt files, like the README | 03:03 |
| cr3 | hm, it seems zope.app.folder and .homefolder don't quite do what I expected either | 03:03 |
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| cr3 | pbugni[afk]: yeah, I've found those quite useful like in the case of zope.app.homefolder which had a README.txt file. | 03:03 |
| cr3 | what package might be useful for providing direct access to files under a directory on the filesystem while enforcing authentication in zope? | 03:04 |
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| cr3 | nevermind, wrote it myself | 03:21 |
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| romanofski | moin *gaehn | 14:19 |
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| chandler | sm: I received your request for a lisppaste bot; I just wanted to confirm that you cleared it with the channel operators here | 15:02 |
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| sm | srichter, all: ok if I ask the pastelisp bot to join this channel ? http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope is an example | 18:54 |
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| srichter | sm: sure | 18:58 |
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| sm | thx | 19:05 |
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| whit | is there a single incantation to easy install all/most of zope3 now? | 19:46 |
| * whit assume easy_install zope.app.container isn't it ;) | 19:47 | |
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| philiKON | whit: find-links = http://download.zope.org/distribution/ | 19:48 |
| philiKON | then you can easy_install all of z3 | 19:48 |
| whit | philiKON: is that like easy_install -f dist/blah zope3 | 19:49 |
| philiKON | i think so | 19:49 |
| whit | or something else? | 19:49 |
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| whit | hmmm... not the answer | 19:54 |
| ccomb | Hi, can someone confirm there is an error in /++apidoc++/Code/zope/app/container/contained/ObjectMovedEvent/index.html ? | 19:55 |
| d2m | ccomb: which error (and which version) ? | 19:58 |
| ccomb | TypeError(_insufficientContext) on 3.3.1 | 20:00 |
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| d2m | ccomb: confirmed "TypeError: There isn't enough context to get URL information. This is probably due to a bug in setting up location information." | 20:09 |
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| sm | requestprofiler is a great tool | 20:17 |
| sm | does anyone know what exactly the BIAE values stand for ? | 20:18 |
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| benji | sm: are you talking about zc.zservertracelog? | 20:38 |
| benji | if so, the README.txt explains them http://svn.zope.org/zc.zservertracelog/branches/dev/README.txt?view=markup | 20:39 |
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| sm | thanks! I didn't know z3 had a different tool | 20:40 |
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| sm | so a request that's stuck at A.. has been completed by zope, but the http client has hung ? something like that I guess | 20:42 |
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| deo | hey guys, nikhil_n is a student from SoC and needs instructions to access svn.zope.org | 21:27 |
| nikhil_n | I am currently using putty and got some problems with it | 21:28 |
| deo | seems that someone instructed him to access svn.zope.org via ssh, but I don't think ssh shell is enabled there for commiters... :-) | 21:28 |
| deo | and I dont't think he needs to connect there via ssh either... | 21:29 |
| nikhil_n | then how security is ensured? | 21:29 |
| deo | nikhil_n: http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/ZopeSVNFAQ | 21:30 |
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| deo | it should contains everything you need | 21:30 |
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| TresEquis | nikhil_n: you use svn+ssh as the transport | 21:31 |
| TresEquis | if you have an account with SVN access, then the only thing that you *can* do is run SVN / CVS | 21:31 |
| nikhil_n | Yes I have an account | 21:32 |
| nikhil_n | and i have registered my public keys | 21:32 |
| TresEquis | $ svn co svn+ssh://svn.zope.org/repos/main/Zope3/trunk should get you a writeable checkout then | 21:32 |
| nikhil_n | but putty is not working. | 21:33 |
| nikhil_n | any other way? | 21:33 |
| TresEquis | what are you typing? | 21:33 |
| TresEquis | you aren't going to be able to get a shell with putty | 21:33 |
| deo | that's what I'm trying to say since the beggining... :-) | 21:34 |
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| deo | nikhil_n: forget putty, just configure tortoisesvn the way you need, as in the svn faq | 21:35 |
| TresEquis | you run the 'svn' command on your *local* box to get a checkout | 21:35 |
| TresEquis | and it uses ssh as a transport | 21:35 |
| nikhil_n | i dont need putty for using above command? | 21:35 |
| nikhil_n | It was given in DoingWritableCheckouts.htm | 21:35 |
| TresEquis | nikhil_n: are you running on Windows? | 21:35 |
| nikhil_n | yes | 21:35 |
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| TresEquis | I don't know Tortoise, but it is suppoed to Just Work | 21:35 |
| nikhil_n | will it work without putty? | 21:36 |
| TresEquis | dunno -- I don't use Windows or Tortoise | 21:38 |
| nikhil_n | It is given in DoingWritableCheckouts.htm that putty should be used before TortoiseSVN | 21:38 |
| nikhil_n | Any one here experienced with windows and putty? | 21:38 |
| TresEquis | http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/ | 21:39 |
| TresEquis | doesn't seem to require putty | 21:39 |
| J1m | windows+ssh is so unpleasant to set up. | 21:40 |
| TresEquis | I don't know what page you are talking about that has '.htm' on the end, either | 21:40 |
| nikhil_n | http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/DoingWritableCheckouts | 21:41 |
| TresEquis | the directions on that page don't say you will get a shell when running putty.exe, only that it will connect to svn.zope.org to get the server key | 21:42 |
| nikhil_n | windows+ssh how can i do? | 21:43 |
| TresEquis | which gets stored in the registry with the other info | 21:43 |
| nikhil_n | can i avoid putty? | 21:43 |
| J1m | nikhil_n, can you avoid Windows? | 21:43 |
| nikhil_n | I will soon be:) | 21:43 |
| benji | bad form J1m; you shouldn't pick on differently-enabled OS users | 21:43 |
| nikhil_n | But presently i am getting internet only on windows | 21:44 |
| * benji awaits a snarky reply | 21:44 | |
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| nikhil_n | My modem dont support linux | 21:44 |
| J1m | Windows enabled is an oxymoron | 21:44 |
| * benji holds up a score card with a 6 on it. | 21:44 | |
| deo | J1m: don't forget about sidnei... ;-) | 21:44 |
| nikhil_n | But i have applied for a new connection and it may take time | 21:45 |
| TresEquis | nikhil_n: did you follow all the directions in that section, including setting up SVN_SSH in the environment using plink.exe? | 21:45 |
| nikhil_n | Yes | 21:45 |
| nikhil_n | but i have a doubt about that. | 21:45 |
| nikhil_n | So until i gets a new connection and modem for linux i am forced to work in windows. | 21:47 |
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| TresEquis | nikhil_n: check out the FAQs here: http://tortoisesvn.net/?q=node/132 | 21:49 |
| nikhil_n | ok,i will do so and try to find the error. | 21:51 |
| benji | nikhil_n: I assume you've looked at http://www.zope.org/DevHome/Subversion/DoingWritableCheckouts | 21:51 |
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| nikhil_n | yes | 21:53 |
| nikhil_n | I found the instructions for putty there. | 21:53 |
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| nikhil_n | yes,that also i did. | 21:55 |
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