IRC log of #zope3-dev for Tuesday, 2007-05-01

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chandlersm: the bot's here now04:40
chandlerlisppaste6: url?04:40
lisppaste6To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/zope3-dev and enter your paste.04:40
chandlersend any questions / comments to lisppaste-requests AT common-lisp.net04:40
smchandler: great, thanks04:40
chandlersm: no problem. and sorry for the checking; I just like to make sure as I've had a few instances where well-intentioned users make requests that the operators don't agree with04:41
smmakes sense04:41
lisppaste6sm pasted "test" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/4057904:41
smI've noticed this and the previous ones (zope, zwiki) don't seem to highlight python syntax by default - can we change that ?04:42
chandlersm: I added zope to the defaults for python. I'll add zwiki too04:43
chandlersm: any others?04:43
smno, just these three04:43
smthanks a bunch.. did you write lisppaste ?04:43
chandlersm: yes, I did.04:44
chandlersm: ok. #zope, #zope3-dev, and #zwiki should all have python colorization by default04:45
smgreat.. are you interested in feedback ?04:45
chandlersm: yup. you can tell me on IRC, but I'm leaving in a minute and it'd probably be better if you sent it to the email list I mentioned before04:47
chandler(the one you emailed for the channel request)04:47
smjust trivial votes: I'd like to see the paste immediately after entering it (without having to click another link), and I find small pastes are a bit hard to see with all the boilerplate stuff. Generally I love it.04:48
smsee you04:48
chandlersm: good feedback. if you could just send that to the mailing list it'd be harder for me to lose ;-)04:48
chandlerthanks!04:48
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smok :)04:48
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LeoRochaelI'm getting this error running a recently updated zope3 checkout tests: http://zope3.pastey.net/1995505:17
LeoRochaelis this related to the ._exit() thing that was discussed some time ago?05:18
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* benji fears new form libraries; doesn't even understand formlib yet.06:19
benjigrr; wrong chan.06:19
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d2mhas someone already done Zope3 benchmarks ? i wonder to which figure you could normalise the request/second data ...12:55
d2mwhat if i take apache serivng a static file as a reference ?12:56
bigkevmcdd2m: I'd guess that's the option with the fewest variables, so should work the best12:57
d2mbigkevmcd: ok12:59
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benjid2m: you might get some use out of http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/funkload/1.6.213:08
d2mbenji: thanks13:09
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projekt01good morning13:53
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projekt01Does somebody why we use the twisted 2.5 branch in the z3 branch?14:01
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edgordoni am working on a project where I would like to store some large audio files on the filesystem so that the zodb remains relatively small. can anyone recommend another project that does something similar to help me get started?23:31
timtez3c.extfile perhaps23:32
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edgordontimte: thanks, that looks like what i need23:36
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philiKONi'm not sure if z3c.extfile handles transactions23:40
philiKONi vaguely recall that it doesn't23:40
philiKONyou surely want something transactional23:40
philiKONi suggest looking into blobs23:40
philiKON(zodb 3.8)23:40
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benjijodok: can you clarify about z3c.extfile and transactions? (I'm curious too)23:47
* jodok reads the backlog23:47
jodokbenji: z3c.extfile is immutable23:48
jodokthe filename on disk is it's md5 hash23:48
jodokit's not cleaning up unnecessary files on disc23:49
philiKONthat's not really the point23:49
benjiyour meaning being that if a transaction that creates one fails, the file just hangs around, and they can't generate conflicts, so should be transaction-safe?23:49
jodokexactly23:49
philiKONwhat if you change a file?23:49
philiKONanyway, i just looked and it seems there's some transaction data manager there (http://svn.zope.org/z3c.extfile/trunk/src/z3c/extfile/property.py?rev=70166&view=auto)23:49
jodokit has a new hash philiKON23:50
jodoksame content - no new hash23:50
philiKONhmm, i see23:50
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jodokif two users upload the same file - just stored once23:50
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philiKONhow does computing the md5 hash scale for large data?23:51
jodokhashes are calculated incrementally - so it's immediately available as soon as the file is on disk23:51
* jodok guessed that thats the next question :)23:51
jodokyou just call md5's update function.23:52
jodokthat's pretty neat23:52
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philiKONuh huh23:52
philiKONbut what if i'm initially uploading a 100 mb file?23:53
philiKONfor the first time23:53
philiKON?23:53
jodokphiliKON: 10kb are here - call update23:53
jodok20 kb iterated - call update23:53
philiKONah, gotcha23:53
jodokit's incremental23:53
philiKONthat is very neat23:53
J1mIt's irrative.23:54
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* J1m likes to annoy benji23:54
jodokiterative :) that's it23:54
J1myes, but not as funny, imo23:54
benjiJim iterates me23:54
* philiKON iterates to bed23:55
J1mThat's the spirit.23:55
jodokthat's indented :)23:55
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