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| radix | is it possible to register adapters from instances, instead of interfaces or class declarations? | 00:35 |
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| philiKON | no | 00:36 |
| philiKON | only if you use marker interfaces | 00:36 |
| radix | yeah, that's what I expected, I guess | 00:36 |
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| instantfoo | ugh | 01:38 |
| philiKON | bless you | 01:38 |
| instantfoo | cheers | 01:40 |
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| nathany | if i want to render a custom page for 404s, is it as simple as registering a BrowserPage for NotFound? | 02:21 |
| philiKON | yes | 02:21 |
| nathany | cool :) | 02:22 |
| nathany | name="index" ? | 02:23 |
| philiKON | index.html | 02:24 |
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| Dude-X | quick question, does the latest dev version of zope work with python 2.5? | 07:35 |
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| romanofski | moin :) | 09:42 |
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| baijum | Theuni, what should be the name of final releases "3.4.0" or just "3.4" ? | 11:40 |
| * baijum know that both are same from setuptools point of view | 11:41 | |
| Theuni | 3.4.0 | 11:43 |
| baijum | Theuni, should we add trove classifiers to individual packages ? | 11:47 |
| Theuni | I don't have an oppinion on that right now. ;) | 11:53 |
| Theuni | I'm thinking in the way of "if it doesn't take too much thinking or consumes too much time then yes" | 11:54 |
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| * baijum confused about zope.annotation's classifiers :- Environment :: Web Environment and Framework :: Zope3 | 11:57 | |
| baijum | zope.annotation depends on zope.component and zope.location, but it doesn't make it "Web only" or "Zope3 Framework" | 12:00 |
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| baijum | Theuni, I just released zope.annotation 3.4.0, what should be the next release version in trunk, "3.5.0" or "3.5.0a1" ? | 13:01 |
| Theuni | philiKON: do you remember what the devision was? | 13:02 |
| Theuni | tres recommended 3.5dev | 13:03 |
| Theuni | s/devision/decision/ | 13:03 |
| philiKON | we don't have one | 13:03 |
| Theuni | k | 13:03 |
| Theuni | we need one | 13:03 |
| philiKON | tres indeed recommended 3.5dev or so | 13:03 |
| philiKON | i recommended a mixture | 13:03 |
| Theuni | lol | 13:03 |
| Theuni | 3.5.0a1dev? | 13:03 |
| philiKON | 3.5.0a1dev | 13:03 |
| philiKON | yes | 13:03 |
| Theuni | argh | 13:03 |
| Theuni | -1 | 13:03 |
| Theuni | at least from aestethics | 13:04 |
| philiKON | well, 3.5.0dev is you please | 13:04 |
| philiKON | point is, that the branch always points to the next release + dev | 13:04 |
| philiKON | (that was the thought behind my idea0 | 13:04 |
| philiKON | it looks better in stable release branches | 13:05 |
| philiKON | 3.4.2dev | 13:05 |
| philiKON | etc. | 13:05 |
| Theuni | ok, why add the dev? | 13:05 |
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| Theuni | we don't want to do dev releases anyway, right? | 13:06 |
| philiKON | right. the dev is there so that people don't accidentally build tarballs from the branch | 13:06 |
| philiKON | or the trunk | 13:06 |
| philiKON | it's a reminder to do proper release management before a release | 13:06 |
| philiKON | update setup.py, changelog, etc. | 13:06 |
| Theuni | hmnmmm | 13:06 |
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| Theuni | gotta go lunch | 13:07 |
| Theuni | bb; | 13:07 |
| Theuni | bbl | 13:07 |
| * baijum going for 3.5.0dev | 13:08 | |
| * baijum wonder why this PyPI page doesn't look pretty : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/zope.annotation/3.4.0 | 13:11 | |
| philiKON | .. conetents:: | 13:11 |
| philiKON | btw, it would be better if the changes were *below* everything | 13:11 |
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| philiKON | baijum: you also want to bump the version number on the 3.4 branch | 13:41 |
| philiKON | of zope.annotation | 13:41 |
| philiKON | to 3.4.1dev | 13:41 |
| baijum | philiKON, ok, will do now | 13:41 |
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| *** ChanServ sets mode: +o srichter | 16:15 | |
| CrippsFX | morning srichter, how are ya? | 16:19 |
| srichter | CrippsFX: good | 16:19 |
| CrippsFX | good good. | 16:20 |
| CrippsFX | :) | 16:20 |
| CrippsFX | what's the goal for the upcoming code sprint? | 16:20 |
| srichter | I think one of the goals will be package dependencies | 16:21 |
| srichter | maybe pushing for Zope 3.4 final | 16:21 |
| srichter | other topics will depend on people's feedback, I think | 16:21 |
| CrippsFX | ah. Just doing a lot of cleaning up et al so that we're closer to another release then. | 16:22 |
| CrippsFX | cool. | 16:22 |
| CrippsFX | I'll check out the wiki to see what needs to be done. If I can work on any of it beforehand, I might try my hand at it. | 16:22 |
| srichter | CrippsFX: do you think you can come? | 16:23 |
| CrippsFX | srichter: again, it'll depend if I can be sponsored to go. I won't have the cash to go myself ... It'll probably depend on the university ... unless you know of anyone I can ask for some financial aid ;) | 16:24 |
| CrippsFX | I would love to go, and I could take the time off, it's only cash that's keeping me from going right now. | 16:25 |
| srichter | CrippsFX: Do you have a car you can drive to Boston with? | 16:25 |
| CrippsFX | no, I don't. | 16:25 |
| srichter | ok | 16:25 |
| CrippsFX | ... unless I could convince my girlfriend's mom to let us go to boston with her car, but that would be almost a definite no. | 16:26 |
| srichter | he he | 16:26 |
| srichter | I believe it | 16:26 |
| CrippsFX | :) | 16:27 |
| CrippsFX | worse comes to worse, I could participate *in proxy* ... set up ekiga and all. | 16:27 |
| CrippsFX | and VNC. | 16:28 |
| srichter | CrippsFX: dod you see my private messages? | 16:28 |
| CrippsFX | yeah, sorry, I was doing some other reafing as well. | 16:30 |
| CrippsFX | *reading | 16:30 |
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| baijum | Theuni, ping ? | 16:39 |
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| baijum | Theuni, should I update svn:externals of zope.annotation in Zope3.4 branch ? | 16:40 |
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| spython | hi, I want to have a OIBTree as a schema field.. i defined the field as a Iterable but I'm not sure what the value_type should be :( | 16:53 |
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| spython | the tree vill be a <string>:<int> | 16:54 |
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| mgedmin | why not define it as a Dict(key_type=TextLine(), value_type=Int())? | 17:29 |
| spython | ah | 17:35 |
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| philiKON | J1m: could you give me cheeseshop rights for zope.event pls? my cheeseshop id is philikon | 18:31 |
| philiKON | thx | 18:31 |
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| xbeanx | How do I include a ';' character in a tales string? ie: tal:attributes="onclick function1(); function2();" | 18:50 |
| xbeanx | oops, I mean tal:attributes="string:onclick function1(); function2();" | 18:51 |
| bigkevmcd | xbeanx: see http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/AppendixC.stx#1-2 | 18:54 |
| bigkevmcd | should work | 18:54 |
| xbeanx | lol, tried everything but that | 18:55 |
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| fdrake | philiKON: So, you removed one of the blank line turds, but not the other in the same example. | 19:02 |
| fdrake | Any reason to keep the other? | 19:02 |
| philiKON | fdrake: ah. well, the one that i kept separates the metadata from packaging hints | 19:02 |
| philiKON | above the blank line we have mostly informational stuff | 19:03 |
| philiKON | below the blank line it's mostly hints to setuptools | 19:03 |
| fdrake | Might be worth a comment explaining the separation then. | 19:03 |
| philiKON | good point | 19:03 |
| fdrake | It's reasonable, I think. | 19:03 |
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| rocky | J1m: fwi, martin aspelli just posted a howto on plone.org for using zc.buildout with Plone 3... expect a flood of new adopters after this ;) | 19:43 |
| rocky | *fyi | 19:43 |
| J1m | philiKON, done | 19:51 |
| J1m | rocky, cool | 19:51 |
| philiKON | J1m: thx! | 19:51 |
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| jpfarias | good evening | 22:45 |
| jpfarias | hey guys | 22:45 |
| jpfarias | how can I copy an object from a container to another? | 22:45 |
| jpfarias | wanna do it from debug terminal | 22:47 |
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| jpfarias | benji: good evening | 22:48 |
| jpfarias | srichter: ping | 22:49 |
| benji | hey | 22:49 |
| jpfarias | hey | 22:49 |
| jpfarias | needing some help ;-) | 22:49 |
| jpfarias | I wanna copy an object from a container to another | 22:49 |
| jpfarias | from the debug prompt | 22:49 |
| jpfarias | u know how can I do that? | 22:49 |
| spython | how much do you want to copy? | 22:55 |
| jpfarias | an object and all its contents | 22:56 |
| jpfarias | the object is another container | 22:56 |
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| srichter | jpfarias: pong | 22:59 |
| jpfarias | hey srichter | 22:59 |
| jpfarias | u know how to help me with above problem? | 22:59 |
| srichter | sorry, I do not have time to chat at this minute | 22:59 |
| srichter | I will be online tonight though | 22:59 |
| jpfarias | ok | 22:59 |
| jpfarias | guess I wait then :-) | 23:01 |
| spython | you could check how copying is done in ZMI | 23:01 |
| spython | not saying i know the answer | 23:02 |
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| spython | but when i open zope/app/container/browser/contents.py i see a copyObjects() function | 23:03 |
| spython | you might wanna investigate that | 23:03 |
| jpfarias | ok | 23:04 |
| jpfarias | thanks | 23:04 |
| spython | and zope/copypastemove/interfaces.py | 23:05 |
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| srichter | J1m: howdo you profile Zope 3 these days? Does the zdeamon package support profiling? | 23:24 |
| J1m | I haven't profiled zope in quite a while. | 23:26 |
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| J1m | when I did, I used runurl, but I think that runurl is pretty out of date, | 23:27 |
| srichter | well, it has no egg, so it is difficult to use ;-) | 23:27 |
| J1m | There are also issues with the profilers. :/ | 23:27 |
| J1m | It wouldn't be more useful if it had an egg. | 23:27 |
| J1m | because it needs to be updated. | 23:27 |
| srichter | updated to what? | 23:28 |
| srichter | it basically needs a recipe | 23:28 |
| J1m | Updated to reflect the many changes made since it was last used. | 23:28 |
| J1m | no, the script itself needfs to be updated. | 23:28 |
| J1m | needs | 23:28 |
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| J1m | I would look to see if there is a wsgi-based profiler. | 23:29 |
| philiKON | srichter: if it were up to date, all you would have to do it is make it an entry poin tin one of the eggs. that gets the script installed | 23:29 |
| srichter | if the Debugger object did not change location and API it should work from what I can see | 23:29 |
| J1m | ok, I dunno. | 23:29 |
| srichter | philiKON: well, I think it might be a little bit more involved | 23:30 |
| srichter | it is like the zope3recipes | 23:30 |
| srichter | in fact, zdeamon really should just support profiling ;-) | 23:30 |
| philiKON | how is it like zope3recipes? | 23:30 |
| J1m | I don't agree at all. | 23:30 |
| philiKON | http://pythonpaste.org/module-paste.debug.profile.html | 23:30 |
| philiKON | wsgi profiler | 23:30 |
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| J1m | when profiling, you want to do things like: | 23:31 |
| J1m | - do a warmup request (or sometimes many) | 23:31 |
| J1m | - do a request many times under the profiler | 23:31 |
| J1m | Oh and you have to decide which profiler to use. | 23:31 |
| srichter | ok, convinced | 23:32 |
| J1m | and, if you use the classic profiler, you need to be able to input a calibration variable. | 23:32 |
| srichter | he he | 23:32 |
| srichter | ok, ok | 23:33 |
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| srichter | luckily zdeamon will drop me in debug mode, so I just call a script from there | 23:33 |
| J1m | right, and you should have access to the debugger there I think and can use it's profiling support, assuming it still has it. | 23:34 |
| J1m | That might actually be the best route to go., | 23:34 |
| srichter | runurl has a function _mainrun that just takes a debugger and does the work | 23:34 |
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