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| srichter | J1m: philiKON: Actually zdeam debug mode with the _runmain() function works pretty well; you have to warm up manually and start the profiler manually, but that's not too much work; | 00:14 |
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| CrippsFX | morning folks. | 15:35 |
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| CrippsFX | morning srichter. | 15:36 |
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| srichter | CrippsFX: good morning | 15:36 |
| CrippsFX | 'sup? | 15:36 |
| srichter | not much | 15:37 |
| CrippsFX | good stuff. | 15:37 |
| projekt01 | srichter, how is the weather at the beach? | 15:41 |
| srichter | projekt01: its extremely hot and humid here | 15:47 |
| * srichter looks forward going back to Boston and watch the foliage | 15:47 | |
| CrippsFX | hahaha. | 15:51 |
| agroszer | hi | 15:51 |
| * CrippsFX ponders about the title "foliage sprint" | 15:51 | |
| naro | is anyone installing ZMySQLDA from buildout.cfg ? ZMySQLDA.tgz contains lib/python/Products/ZMySQLDA subdirectory which should be extracted to Products and I don't know how to define it in buildout.cfg | 15:59 |
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| benji | I don't think I've ever seen a "Pruducts" directory in Zope 3. If it has a setup.py it should be installable via setuptools (and therefore buildout). | 16:05 |
| benji | s/Pruducts/Products/ | 16:05 |
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| naro | benji: I'm sorry. It is more buildout than zope3 question | 16:13 |
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| baijum | Theuni, ayt ? | 16:38 |
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| zagy | uhm | 16:40 |
| jpfarias | hey guys | 16:40 |
| jpfarias | good morning | 16:40 |
| zagy | the ZODB afterCommitHooks are not called on abort?! | 16:40 |
| jpfarias | I'm having this problem with catalogs | 16:40 |
| jpfarias | when I kill / restart my zope3 instance | 16:40 |
| jpfarias | I need to reindex the catalogs | 16:41 |
| jpfarias | otherwise I don't get correct results for searchs | 16:41 |
| jpfarias | why is that happening? | 16:41 |
| jpfarias | any clues? | 16:41 |
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| J1m | I doubt anyone can help without looking at your code and I doubt that anyone has time to look at your code. | 16:47 |
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| Theuni | baijum: pong | 16:51 |
| ignas | J1m: is there some way for buildout to automagically checkout some repository instead of using an egg? by for example changing/uncommenting a line in buildout.cfg or so | 16:52 |
| baijum | Theuni, I am going to update svn:externals of Zope 3.4 branch with release tags of packages (only for released ones), is it ok ? | 16:52 |
| Theuni | yes, please. :) | 16:53 |
| ignas | J1m: one of my "applications" depends on a schooltool egg, and i would like to be able to have a nice way to switch to checkout (a nicer way than a manual svn co + develop = path/to/checkout) | 16:53 |
| ignas | checkout of schooltool | 16:53 |
| J1m | ignas, you could always create a recipe, but frankly, I think doing a checkout and adding a develop entry is pretty nice. | 16:54 |
| J1m | I suppose it might be interesting to allow subversion urls in the develop list. | 16:55 |
| J1m | or a subversion option that has a similar effect. | 16:56 |
| J1m | Checkins accepted. :) | 16:56 |
| baijum | Theuni, done for the packages I released | 16:56 |
| Theuni | :) | 16:56 |
| Theuni | yay! | 16:56 |
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| * baijum going to pick some easy ones in TODO list ;) | 16:59 | |
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| baijum | Theuni, which version of zope.testing is going to be included in 3.4 ? the latest release is 3.5.1 and there is 3.4.0 release also ... | 17:46 |
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| Theuni | 3.4.0 i guess | 17:52 |
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| philiKON_ | why not 3.5.1? | 17:54 |
| philiKON_ | it's stable | 17:54 |
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| ignas | Theuni: are you the person responsible for packaging Zope3 releases? | 17:58 |
| philiKON | ignas: he's the 3.4 release manager | 17:59 |
| ignas | i just wanted to ask if he knows which version of Zope3 is going to be included in Ubuntu Hardy Heron | 18:00 |
| philiKON | isn't that up to whoever makes the deb packages? | 18:01 |
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| ignas | oh, if that is not something release manager does, then yes | 18:01 |
| philiKON | the release manager makes a tarball | 18:02 |
| ignas | though it still depends on which release is going to be the most up to date one in April 2008 | 18:02 |
| philiKON | we don't do packages for a bazillion linux distros | 18:02 |
| ignas | or 2-3 months earlier | 18:02 |
| ignas | i see | 18:02 |
| ignas | makes sense | 18:02 |
| ignas | so i guess whichever stable Zope3 tarball exists gets packaged as a deb by debian package maintainers | 18:03 |
| philiKON | well, i hope that they'll soon package the individual ones instead | 18:03 |
| philiKON | we should give the right suggestions in the 3.4.0 release notes | 18:04 |
| ignas | i just want to try and keep away from depending on anything that will not get packaged before the next ubuntu deadline ... | 18:05 |
| philiKON | well, this isn't the zope project's problem | 18:06 |
| ignas | depending on Zope3.4 turned out to be a mistake for schooltool | 18:06 |
| CrippsFX | I'm getting a traceback (the important part is located here: http://www.pastebin.ca/675837) that's complaining about unbalanced parenthesis. I can't see them by looking at all the code I've written since before I got that message. How, then, might I go about finding said "unbalanced parenthesis?" | 18:06 |
| philiKON | CrippsFX: xmlint | 18:07 |
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| CrippsFX | philiKON: that'll work on python code as well? | 18:07 |
| philiKON | no | 18:07 |
| ignas | philiKON: i guess it's not, most of projects that depend on Zope3 don't need Zope3 releases at all | 18:07 |
| philiKON | the problem is in your xml | 18:07 |
| timte | ignas: ask the debian maintainer of the zope packages, his mail should be found when doing "apt-cache show <package>" | 18:07 |
| ignas | especially if they are using eggs | 18:07 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: okay. I shall check it out with xmlint then. thanks. | 18:07 |
| philiKON | CrippsFX: next time read the error message carefully | 18:08 |
| ignas | timte: debian maintainer couldn't have planned for Zope3.4 not having a tarball for so long, so it depends on Zope3 more than him ... | 18:08 |
| baijum | ignas, why not help with releasing some packages, when all these individual packages are released Zope 3.4 final will be released soon | 18:08 |
| baijum | this is the TODO list: http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/StabilizeEggPackages | 18:09 |
| ignas | baijum: because it's too late already i guess | 18:09 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: oh, yeah ... tells me right there: zope.configuration.xmlconfig.ZopeXMLConfigurationError: ... heh, my bad *grins* | 18:09 |
| baijum | ignas, is it difficult to run schooltool using Zope 3.3 ? | 18:10 |
| philiKON | 3.4 doesn't have too many new things compared to 3.3 | 18:10 |
| ignas | baijum: we are using too many packages/eggs that depend on Zope3.4 | 18:10 |
| ignas | so we concentrated on releasing these eggs assuming that Zope3 will just get released, but i guess next time our release plans should include packaging Zope3 eggs as well | 18:11 |
| philiKON | baijum, Theuni: i'd like to talk about the todo list for a moment | 18:11 |
| * baijum listening | 18:12 | |
| philiKON | baijum, Theuni: i think it's plain bureaucracy to introduce a 3.4 branch | 18:12 |
| philiKON | take stuff like zope.deferredimprot or zope.cachedescriptors | 18:12 |
| philiKON | these things haven't changed in ages | 18:12 |
| philiKON | they're not going to start changing now | 18:12 |
| philiKON | the only advantage of a 3.4 branch created now would be that the trunk was open for feature checkins | 18:12 |
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| baijum | philiKON, so just tag release without a branch and not increase minor version number in trunk instead of that just make the patch version with .dev suffix ? | 18:15 |
| philiKON | yes | 18:16 |
| philiKON | tjat | 18:16 |
| philiKON | that's my suggestion | 18:16 |
| baijum | I agree | 18:16 |
| philiKON | baijum: btw, when you see 3.4dev-rXXX versions on the cheeseshop, remove them | 18:17 |
| baijum | ok, will do | 18:17 |
| baijum | Can you update this page with that note: StabilizeEggPackages | 18:17 |
| philiKON | well, i'd like to see what Theuni says | 18:17 |
| baijum | ok | 18:17 |
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| baijum | see you all ! | 18:18 |
| philiKON | bye | 18:18 |
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| CrippsFX | this is weird ... I'm still getting the same traceback when I try to run bin/runzope, but "zmllint --noout configure.zcml" has no output for site/browser/configure.zcml ... which according to the xmllint documentation on tldp indicates there are no syntax errors. | 18:31 |
| CrippsFX | *"xmllint --noout configure.zcml" | 18:32 |
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| CrippsFX | philiKON: turns out it wasn't a configuration error at all ... it was a regex syntax error that I overlooked in site/interfaces.py | 18:42 |
| CrippsFX | philiKON: ...although, that was a few lines higher up in the traceback, hidden with all the regular "zope doesn't like what you put into it" traceback stuff ... | 18:43 |
| CrippsFX | :) | 18:43 |
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| philiKON | zcml tracebacks suck... | 18:45 |
| CrippsFX | yeah, it's true. | 18:48 |
| CrippsFX | lunchtime for me ... I'll be back in about 20 minutes. | 18:49 |
| philiKON | don't rush it :) | 18:49 |
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| CrippsFX | hahaha ... I might come back and watch cartoons until lunchtime is up ;) | 18:49 |
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