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| srichter | Theuni: are you working on this final critical ZODB bug today? | 13:40 |
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| Theuni | jupp | 13:46 |
| Theuni | i'm finishing up blob packing right now | 13:46 |
| Theuni | then i'll go to the creative getstate | 13:46 |
| srichter | Theuni: yipee | 13:48 |
| srichter | Theuni: maybe you can create a 3.8.0c1 or even 3.8.0 before the weekend is over? | 13:48 |
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| Theuni | rc1 would be good i think | 13:53 |
| Theuni | final should have a week or so | 13:53 |
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| philiKON | srichter: ayt? | 13:54 |
| srichter | philiKON: yes | 13:54 |
| philiKON | hey | 13:54 |
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| srichter | good morning | 13:55 |
| philiKON | so, i'm changing controlled-versions.cfg to include the newest bugfix releases i made yesterday and today | 13:55 |
| srichter | yes, I saw that | 13:55 |
| srichter | you should be able to upload now | 13:55 |
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| philiKON | thanks | 13:55 |
| philiKON | well | 13:55 |
| philiKON | i thought it'd be good to run the tests first | 13:55 |
| philiKON | before i commit | 13:55 |
| srichter | yes | 13:55 |
| philiKON | so i tried regenerating the 'test' buildout | 13:55 |
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| srichter | yeah, you need to comment out the index line in the generated buildout.cfg | 13:56 |
| philiKON | when running that test buildout, it complains that it can't find some of the versions | 13:56 |
| philiKON | riiiight | 13:56 |
| philiKON | so i wonder, why is that index line in there anyweay? | 13:56 |
| philiKON | i mean, that buildout has fixed versions anyhow, right? | 13:56 |
| srichter | I ****really**** need to remove that line from the template | 13:56 |
| philiKON | ah, ok | 13:56 |
| philiKON | i see :) | 13:56 |
| philiKON | it would make sense | 13:56 |
| srichter | you can do that now, if you like | 13:56 |
| philiKON | thanks, i'll continue then | 13:56 |
| philiKON | um... ok | 13:56 |
| philiKON | lemme run those tests first | 13:56 |
| srichter | ok | 13:57 |
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| philiKON | hmmm... nearly 11k unit tests... :) | 14:00 |
| srichter | yep | 14:00 |
| srichter | we should be proud of that | 14:00 |
| srichter | this weekend I am going to write a script that runs coverage tests for all packages in the KGS | 14:01 |
| philiKON | cool | 14:01 |
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| philiKON | Ran 10955 tests with 2 failures and 114 errors in 6 minutes 58.444 seconds. | 14:09 |
| philiKON | for the unit tests | 14:09 |
| philiKON | Total: 808 tests, 1 failures, 0 errors in 10 minutes 45.100 seconds. | 14:09 |
| philiKON | for the ftests | 14:09 |
| srichter | ok, the 114 error probably come from z3c.rml; as I said, I am going to look into those | 14:10 |
| philiKON | judging from the same amount of failures and errors, i deduct i can checkin... | 14:10 |
| srichter | :-) | 14:10 |
| srichter | cool | 14:10 |
| philiKON | svn: Commit failed (details follow): | 14:10 |
| philiKON | svn: Authorization failed | 14:10 |
| srichter | darn | 14:10 |
| srichter | svn? | 14:10 |
| srichter | what did you try to do? | 14:11 |
| philiKON | svn ci | 14:11 |
| srichter | on zope.release? | 14:11 |
| philiKON | yup | 14:11 |
| srichter | mmh, I have no control over that; you checked in there yesterday already | 14:11 |
| philiKON | i didn't | 14:12 |
| srichter | yeah, I saw a checkin to zope.release yesterday or this morning | 14:12 |
| srichter | aehm, I take this back | 14:13 |
| srichter | you just sent me a diff | 14:13 |
| philiKON | :) | 14:13 |
| philiKON | right | 14:13 |
| philiKON | i suppose i could send you an updated diff and you commit it.. ? | 14:13 |
| srichter | strange, zope.release is just another svn project I created | 14:13 |
| srichter | there should be no magic here | 14:13 |
| srichter | can you do an svn info? | 14:14 |
| philiKON | URL: svn://svn.zope.org/repos/main/zope.release/branches/3.4 | 14:14 |
| philiKON | duh | 14:14 |
| srichter | :-) | 14:14 |
| philiKON | how the heck did i get that one? | 14:15 |
| srichter | I fixed download.zope.org/zope3.4 so that you can upload | 14:15 |
| philiKON | what would i have to upload? | 14:15 |
| srichter | you can just use the upload script in zope.release | 14:15 |
| srichter | so the dance is: | 14:15 |
| srichter | ./bin/generate-buildout | 14:15 |
| srichter | ./bin/generate-versions | 14:15 |
| srichter | ./bin/upload | 14:15 |
| philiKON | ok | 14:16 |
| philiKON | i see | 14:16 |
| srichter | probably I should add a very simple script or Makefile that combines all three or make upload run generate as well | 14:16 |
| philiKON | another question: | 14:16 |
| philiKON | should i forward merge the change to controlled-versions.cfg on the 3.4 branch to the trunk? | 14:16 |
| srichter | yeah, that would be a good idea | 14:16 |
| srichter | but nothing has moved in trunk yet, so you can just copy controlled-packges.cfg over | 14:17 |
| philiKON | ah, ok | 14:17 |
| srichter | I created the branch only for people to get some stability | 14:18 |
| srichter | maybe it was too early; I dunno | 14:18 |
| philiKON | right | 14:18 |
| philiKON | merging is easy enough | 14:18 |
| srichter | yep | 14:18 |
| philiKON | (at least with ezmerge ;)) | 14:18 |
| srichter | huh, I have to look at the script | 14:19 |
| philiKON | http://mg.pov.lt/eazysvn/ | 14:19 |
| philiKON | tool that mgedmin and I wrote | 14:19 |
| srichter | when was that? | 14:20 |
| philiKON | hmm, ages ago :) | 14:20 |
| srichter | ok | 14:20 |
| philiKON | anyway, back to zope.release | 14:21 |
| philiKON | it knows the right upload location, right? | 14:21 |
| philiKON | ah, i see it in buildout.cfg now | 14:21 |
| philiKON | neat | 14:21 |
| srichter | yes | 14:21 |
| srichter | oh, that's the reason I created the branch :-) | 14:21 |
| philiKON | yep :) | 14:21 |
| philiKON | scp ./test/buildout.cfg download.zope.org:/var/www/download.zope.org/zope3.4/buildout.cfg | 14:22 |
| philiKON | Command not accepted | 14:22 |
| srichter | darn | 14:23 |
| srichter | did the other two work? (I guess it bailed out after that | 14:23 |
| philiKON | it bailed out | 14:23 |
| srichter | that message is not very helpful, isn't it? | 14:24 |
| philiKON | it's not :/ | 14:24 |
| srichter | mmh, it worked for me | 14:26 |
| srichter | did it ask for your pwd (assuming you do not have ssh-agent running) | 14:26 |
| srichter | you can upload to distribution, right? | 14:27 |
| philiKON | yeah | 14:27 |
| philiKON | at least i could | 14:27 |
| philiKON | no, it didn't ask me for a pwd, since i use key authorization :) | 14:27 |
| srichter | ok, zope3.4 has the same group | 14:27 |
| srichter | and the group has write permissions | 14:28 |
| srichter | do you have shell access to download.zope.org? | 14:28 |
| philiKON | don't think so | 14:28 |
| philiKON | nope i don't | 14:28 |
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| srichter | mmh, strange | 14:29 |
| philiKON | srichter: well, you could do the upload for now ;) | 14:30 |
| srichter | I did already | 14:30 |
| srichter | I just do not want to be the bottleneck forever ;-) | 14:30 |
| srichter | the question is whether you can upload something to: | 14:31 |
| srichter | download.zope.org:/var/www/download.zope.org/distribution | 14:32 |
| srichter | if not, then it has something to do with the parent directories not giving proper access and we probably need to symlink zope3.4 to the root level as well | 14:32 |
| philiKON | srichter: that's what i suspect. the distribution dir is symlinked in the root, right? | 14:38 |
| srichter | yes | 14:38 |
| philiKON | srichter: the z3c.layer fix, was that regarding to DemoLayer? | 14:41 |
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| ChrisW | this might be a better channel for the question I was about to ask on #repoze ;-) | 14:42 |
| ChrisW | anyone know about or used security proxies from zope3 much? | 14:42 |
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| philiKON | ChrisW: um, well, we all use them when we use zope3 :) | 14:50 |
| philiKON | ChrisW: or, to speak with MacYET's words, don't ask meta questions :) | 14:50 |
| ChrisW | yeah yeah, but my use case is a little different | 14:50 |
| ChrisW | in my head, what woul;d make a secure scripting environment for scripter is a normal python execution context with controlled imports and all content objects being security proxied | 14:51 |
| ChrisW | am I barking up the right tree? | 14:51 |
| srichter | philiKON: no, something else; I had it around for days | 14:52 |
| srichter | forgot to check it in | 14:52 |
| philiKON | srichter: ah, ok | 14:52 |
| philiKON | ChrisW: i guess so | 14:52 |
| philiKON | ChrisW: RestrictedPython needs to die | 14:52 |
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| ChrisW | exactly | 14:53 |
| ChrisW | restricted python just seems like overkill | 14:53 |
| ChrisW | but, I'm wondering if the existing zope 3 security proxies will meet my needs? | 14:53 |
| srichter | ChrisW: yes, if you control the imports than that cool | 14:53 |
| srichter | but how do you want to do that | 14:53 |
| ChrisW | well, one problem at a time ;-) | 14:53 |
| srichter | if you give someone full access to Python they could change the import hook back to the original one | 14:54 |
| ChrisW | true, but how do security proxies prevent people just getting hold of the proxied object? | 14:54 |
| srichter | by not making the unwrapping modules, liek zope.security, available | 14:55 |
| srichter | which is certainly true for a ZPT environment | 14:55 |
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| ChrisW | well okay, but doesn't the proxy have an attribute that will evetually lead back to the original object? | 14:55 |
| srichter | no | 14:58 |
| Theuni | that attribute is _inside_ the proxy | 14:58 |
| ChrisW | so the proxy must be a C extension then? | 14:58 |
| Theuni | yes | 14:58 |
| srichter | as far as I remember, you have to use the special unwrapping function to do that | 14:58 |
| Theuni | see zope.proxy and zope.security | 14:58 |
| Theuni | srichter: yes | 14:59 |
| ChrisW | cool | 14:59 |
| ChrisW | so yes, just the import problem to solve | 14:59 |
| ChrisW | are there docs for the security proxy things? | 14:59 |
| ChrisW | where can I see example code that creates them? | 14:59 |
| srichter | so the __import__ hook is what you want; but I do not know how you could fully hide it in the secure env | 14:59 |
| ChrisW | how does the security policy (which I want to be very different in my case) plug in... | 14:59 |
| srichter | there are plenty of *.txt files in zope.proxy, zope.security, and zope.securitypolicy to get you started | 15:00 |
| ChrisW | the import thing might be something to ask on the python lists... | 15:00 |
| ChrisW | srichter: yes, I remember reading a lot of them and not really getting anywhere | 15:00 |
| srichter | it's not that hard, to security proxy an object you simply pass in the obejct and the checker to the factory | 15:02 |
| ChrisW | ah, and I'm guessing the checker in zope3 land comes from the security policy? | 15:02 |
| srichter | no, checker management is part of zope.security | 15:03 |
| ChrisW | yay! more indirection! ;-) | 15:03 |
| ChrisW | where does the security policy come in then? | 15:03 |
| srichter | zope.security then asks a component, in our case the policy, whether a given participation/principal has the permission stated in the checker | 15:03 |
| srichter | the participation/principal is stored in a thread global | 15:03 |
| ChrisW | interesting | 15:05 |
| ChrisW | sounds like quite a complicated web | 15:05 |
| ChrisW | would it be possible to extract some/all of it into a wsgi app? | 15:05 |
| * ChrisW is dipping toes in wsgi land | 15:05 | |
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| ccomb | Is the view "++etc++process/@@generations.html" reserved to ZODB only ? | 16:16 |
| ccomb | ("ZODB schemas" is much shorter in french than "Database shemas") | 16:16 |
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