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| danielblackburn | srichter: Any chance to look at the example? | 04:19 |
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| timte | Is it possible to have a menu conditionally, if it doesn't already exist? | 11:10 |
| timte | <browser:menu id="buttons" /> | 11:11 |
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| timte | this will crash if this menu is already defined, can I instead just make this being ignored if this menu is already registered by some other package? | 11:14 |
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| edgordon | i want to generate a unique id for each object that is a certain number of characters and uses letters and numbers (something like an sha digest). Any tips on the best way to do this? | 16:23 |
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| srichter | edgordon: an md5 hash is pretty darn safe | 16:24 |
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| srichter | edgordon: Limewire trsuts it for uniqueness | 16:24 |
| edgordon | make an md5 hash of the object before I add it to the container, and set that as the id? | 16:25 |
| benji | there are also of course UUIDs | 16:25 |
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| srichter | edgordon: well, if you have objects, I would just use the intid utility or as benji suggested a uuid utility | 16:35 |
| edgordon | yeah, i think uuid is what i am looking for | 16:35 |
| srichter | I know the plone people implemented such a beast already | 16:35 |
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| J1m | Theuni, what is the write skew issue? | 17:40 |
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| Theuni | J1m: a rather unintuitive issue with MVCC that is caused by computing values derived from other values in the database that are changed in parallel. | 17:45 |
| Theuni | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/121437 | 17:45 |
| Theuni | I had a very long discussion with Dieter Maurer on this quite a while ago | 17:46 |
| Theuni | there is not existing satisfying and obvious solution to this problem | 17:46 |
| Theuni | s/not/no/ | 17:46 |
| Theuni | (there are some that are obvious but not satisfying) | 17:46 |
| Theuni | interestingly you said something about "most databases" and "default configuration" | 17:47 |
| Theuni | do you know of any specific databases and configurations that handle this right? | 17:47 |
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| J1m | Theuni, when I get a chance, I'll pay attention and reply. :) | 18:02 |
| Theuni | np | 18:03 |
| Theuni | I really just wrote this mail so the info I got doesn't totally get lost somewhere when beer hits my brain | 18:04 |
| Theuni | i should link the posting to the bug | 18:04 |
| benji | Theuni: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_ordering and in particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commitment_ordering#Multi-version_CO_.28MVCO.29 seem pertinant | 18:05 |
| Theuni | grrr. | 18:06 |
| * Theuni hates himself when he misses those things in wikipedia | 18:06 | |
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| * benji considers offering Google-fu lessons. ;) | 18:07 | |
| Theuni | gnah. I probably was hindered by having read up too much stuff at once so I probably lost track. | 18:07 |
| Theuni | i guess if i'd have googled for commit ordering i'd have had been good | 18:08 |
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| timte | is it possible to reference a template by absolute path in a browser:page directive? | 18:29 |
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| philiKON | timte: i don't think so. and even if, what good would it be? | 18:34 |
| timte | philiKON: I could reference templates in other package | 18:35 |
| timte | so I don't need to wrap it with <configure package="..."> | 18:35 |
| timte | absolute package path, not absolute filesystem path | 18:36 |
| philiKON | PageTemplateFile('foo.pt', os.path.dirname(pkg.__file__)) | 18:36 |
| philiKON | in zcml you'll have to do the <configure> trick | 18:37 |
| timte | ok, thanks | 18:37 |
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| edgordon | i am following the example from philiKON's book on setting up generations, and I have followed it pretty close and doublechecked everything (i think), but when I start up to migrate my db i get an error that SchemaManager object is not callable. has something changed w/ the syntax? | 18:49 |
| afd_ | edgordon: zcontact has an example | 18:52 |
| edgordon | thanks | 18:52 |
| afd_ | (the entry barier being that you'll need to pull it out from launchpad's bazaar ) | 18:53 |
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| Theuni | *phew* | 19:07 |
| Theuni | the egg buildbot is working again, in principle | 19:07 |
| Theuni | i upgraded the virtual disk and hope it stays alive now | 19:07 |
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| Theuni | i'll try to make it available over the week from the public again | 19:07 |
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| hazmat | if you use z3c.traverser's stackinfo suport to retrieve a published object, does absolute url work properly, or do you need to generate dummy containers with __parent__, __name__ pointers | 23:00 |
| hazmat | srichter, ^ ;-) | 23:00 |
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| srichter | hazmat: I did not implement the stack info stuff, bernd did that | 23:15 |
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