IRC log of #zope3-dev for Thursday, 2008-03-06

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runyagai got ? benji01:35
runyagahave you guys had systems where silly coder was accidentlly mutating persistent objects *grin*01:35
runyagaan example01:37
runyagayou have no idea "where in the code base" .. but you are positive something is changing persistent objects01:37
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benjirunyaga: the first thing that comes to mind is to hack the persistence code to log (or drop into a pdb) whenever an object is dirtied01:44
runyagaright01:44
runyagabut its in c01:44
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runyagaand the person who im debugging this with is not a c guy/gal01:45
runyagathey can put pdb01:45
runyagabut they cant fiddle w/ c and recompile01:45
benji:(01:45
runyagathere is no python implementation of persistent is there? ;(01:45
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benjido you know the kinds of objects that are being mutated?  if so, you could put a __setattr__ that logs/calls pdb in those classes.01:47
runyagabenji, no ;-(01:47
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runyagabenji, maybe in OFS.SimpleItem ?01:47
benjiIIRC, you can use fstail to see what's being written to the DB01:48
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benjido you know how to provoke the writes01:48
runyagarequest a page through the browser ?01:48
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runyagai believe any traversal is causing it01:48
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benjiok; so I think you can start fstail, make the request, and then you'll know what objects are being written01:49
runyagacan you run fstail against live zeo server?01:49
runyagaobviously you can.. but its a production system.. i just wanted to be sure01:50
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runyagauhm benji02:00
runyagafstail only shows writes - correct?02:00
benjirunyaga: you /should/ be able to; I'd be careful02:00
runyagayeah we backed up02:00
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limiseems like we have some writes on view here: http://paste.plone.org/1994802:02
* limi wonders where one would find the source of what causes the writes02:03
runyagalimi: we can try to monkey patch SimpleItem's __setstate__ method02:03
runyagaand hope that whatever is being written inherients from SimpleItem and isnt overridden further up02:03
runyagathat was benji's other idea02:04
limithat sounds like it's slightly outside of my skill set ;)02:04
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limilooks like it's coming from a third-party add-on (AutoMemberMaker or apachepas)02:16
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jayarajgood night to all!18:38
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