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| whit | in zope.index.field.FieldIndex.__init__, what is the purpose of seeminly untested "family" param? | 00:34 |
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| whit | kw arg | 00:34 |
| whit | nvrmnd.. figured it out | 00:35 |
| mgedmin | well, what is it? | 00:35 |
| mgedmin | inquiring minds want to know | 00:35 |
| whit | mgedmin: seems to allow you to use different families of btrees: 32bit, 64bit, etc | 00:36 |
| * mgedmin nods | 00:36 | |
| whit | thats all | 00:36 |
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| pcardune | projekt01: I'm excited to see all the changes you are making | 07:34 |
| projekt01 | pcardune, yeah, I just commited the latest zam packages | 07:34 |
| projekt01 | now we have the new table, jsonrpc and zam packages available as eggs | 07:35 |
| pcardune | projekt01: awesome | 07:35 |
| pcardune | projekt01: what is the deal with the jquery.* packages? I don't find any documentation that explains how they all work together? | 07:35 |
| projekt01 | pcardune, I like to deprecate them | 07:36 |
| projekt01 | the newest packages are z3c.xmlhttp, z3c.jsonrpcproxy for JSON-RPC javascripts | 07:37 |
| pcardune | projekt01: ok, that is good to know | 07:37 |
| pcardune | projekt01: and for jquery javascript? | 07:37 |
| projekt01 | Normaly I include the latest JQuery from the JQuery homepage in the skin | 07:37 |
| projekt01 | But I guess we should add the newest jquery.js to the zope.prg repos which makes it more clear what is used | 07:38 |
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| pcardune | projekt01: hmmm, well z3c.formjs depends on one of the jquery package because it registers the jquery renderers against a layer in one of the jquery.* packages | 07:40 |
| pcardune | projekt01: I had an irksome feeling back then that it wasn't a good idea | 07:40 |
| projekt01 | We should at least add the newest jquery.js to the zope.org repos which makes it more clear what is used | 07:40 |
| projekt01 | and add a jquery version to our JS scripts | 07:41 |
| pcardune | projekt01: I suppose, but if we are going to deprecate them, it would be better to not look like it is kept up...? | 07:41 |
| projekt01 | probably we should only deprecate the additonal jquery packages, the core lib could stay there | 07:42 |
| pcardune | projekt01: ok, that definitely sounds good to me | 07:42 |
| pcardune | it seems like a lot of them have an extremely minimal amount of code. | 07:43 |
| projekt01 | yes | 07:43 |
| projekt01 | yeah, we didn't relase them, I think we could move them to a sandbox | 07:44 |
| pcardune | oh, i didn't realize they were never released, that is a big plus | 07:45 |
| projekt01 | yup | 07:45 |
| projekt01 | pcardune, only the jquery.javascript is released all other packages not | 07:47 |
| projekt01 | that's fine, I think we could use jquery.javascript and move the others to a sandbox | 07:48 |
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| jayaraj | hi timte, hope you remeber the discussion we had on last friday http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/%23zope3-dev.2008-04-11.log.html , about the multiple data.fs without zoe.... its possible to use multiple database files with out using zeo :) | 08:46 |
| timte | jayaraj: yeah I remember, how do you do that? | 08:47 |
| jayaraj | yea just use multiple <zodb> sections and name them | 08:48 |
| timte | but that won't make the database files synced, will it? I think that was your requirement? | 08:49 |
| jayaraj | we wanted to use dbs over nfs | 08:49 |
| jayaraj | yea we still need to think how to deal with syncing | 08:50 |
| jayaraj | http://rafb.net/p/Yvbwwg39.html | 08:51 |
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| jayaraj | still need to come up with some prototype.... | 08:52 |
| afd_ | jayaraj: did you look at gocept.zeoraid? | 08:53 |
| jayaraj | not yet | 08:53 |
| afd_ | what about relstorage? | 08:53 |
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| afd_ | there's probably lots more tricks that can be done with pg regarding partioning than with zeo... | 08:54 |
| jayaraj | not yet :) i was buzy with some other requirements | 08:54 |
| afd_ | but I bet that you should drop the nfs requirement | 08:54 |
| jayaraj | yea i have a fealing too... it depends on how zope deal with filestorage type of db | 08:55 |
| jayaraj | let us see how it goes... | 08:56 |
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| ccomb | Hi, is there a way to see the state of the ZODB as it was N transactions ago? | 17:33 |
| ccomb | in debug mode or something ? | 17:34 |
| mgedmin | all of the state, or just one object? | 17:36 |
| ccomb | at least one object | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | http://zope3.pastey.net/21405 | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | hacky, but useful | 17:37 |
| ccomb | thanks, and in debugzope mode, there is no way to see the past? | 17:37 |
| mgedmin | through the web? | 17:38 |
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| ccomb | no, in the prompt | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | what I pasted | 17:38 |
| ccomb | ah ok | 17:38 |
| mgedmin | is code you run in a debugzope prompt | 17:38 |
| ccomb | great, thanks | 17:38 |
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| mgedmin | I actually had more -- list_history_with_diff() | 17:39 |
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| mgedmin | shows the differences in __dict__ between transactions | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | sometimes I dream of a web version of this | 17:39 |
| mgedmin | with hyperlinks to other persistent objects, etc | 17:39 |
| ccomb | some kind of Trac for the zodb :) | 17:39 |
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| jodok | J1m: do you have an idea why a KeyError in _makeroom.py could occur? http://paste.plone.org/20814 | 18:11 |
| jodok | J1m: we have this problem every few days on our production servers. | 18:11 |
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| jodok | the zope app-server doesn't work at all if this error occurs. restarting helps | 18:12 |
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| runyaga | jodok, you look at that file | 18:21 |
| runyaga | some changes have been applied since b4 | 18:21 |
| runyaga | i dont know the line numbers of the diff | 18:22 |
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| jodok | so your problems reported in https://bugs.launchpad.net/zodb/+bug/114814 have been solved? | 18:23 |
| jodok | runyaga: ^ | 18:23 |
| runyaga | jodok, i believe that was fixed | 18:24 |
| runyaga | but theune knows | 18:24 |
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| runyaga | it looks like | 18:24 |
| runyaga | tlotze checkin says | 18:24 |
| runyaga | "if a file cant fit in the cache - it doenst try to cache it" | 18:25 |
| runyaga | so that could be the fix | 18:25 |
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| runyaga | if you could confirm that it fixes it ) | 18:25 |
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| runyaga | nightmare to test | 18:25 |
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| runyaga | would be great to see a zodb 3.9 come out | 18:25 |
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| jodok | 3.8.0 final doesn't have the fix either | 18:28 |
| jodok | Theuni: ^ | 18:28 |
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| Theuni | jodok: hmm | 18:33 |
| * Theuni checks | 18:33 | |
| Theuni | argh | 18:34 |
| Theuni | that bug | 18:34 |
| * Theuni runs | 18:34 | |
| Theuni | can you ping me tomorrow or per mail? i gotta go right now. | 18:34 |
| jodok | cu | 18:36 |
| jodok | quodt: ^ | 18:36 |
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| * sm proposes a new proposals page, http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/DraftProposals#bottom | 20:42 | |
| srichter | sm: looks good; I wish the automatic page could contain the final status somehow (I realize this is hard to do) | 20:43 |
| sm | srichter: thx. It's not clear to me if launchpad or the wiki pages is where we track that metadata | 20:44 |
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| sm | if it's on the wiki, and somewhat consistent, I could extract it | 20:46 |
| sm | an restructured text :Status: tag as at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SessionCredentialsAPIEnhancements/src seems like a good/current practice.. and if that's not present, show status:Unknown | 20:48 |
| srichter | yeah | 20:49 |
| srichter | sm: I also wrote some final state in the OldProposal Wiki | 20:50 |
| sm | ah | 20:50 |
| srichter | we could copy the final state that I have in OlderProposals as the Stuatu of the proposal and then parse for :Status: as you suggested | 20:52 |
| srichter | btw, thanks a lot for all this cleanup work | 20:52 |
| sm | srichter: added :status: display. It's messed up for a few pages which are html | 21:02 |
| sm | you're welcome.. glad to know it's useful | 21:02 |
| * sm fixes | 21:09 | |
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| lgs | Hi, I want to help getting ride of the zope.app.zapi dependency in zope3 | 21:27 |
| lgs | I'd like to ask what's the best way to setup a devel box for the several eggs that compose the zope 3.4 distribution nowadays | 21:28 |
| lgs | I know about the zopeproject thing, but I guess that's for building applications that use the zope3 libs | 21:28 |
| lgs | I want to hack on the zope3 libs themselves... | 21:28 |
| lgs | I'd like to get a little bit more involved and that's why a choosed an easy task (remove zope.app.zapi) | 21:29 |
| lgs | should I get a svn checkout of the packages listed here: http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/controlled-packages.cfg ? | 21:31 |
| lgs | I also read http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SettingUpAZope3Sandbox but I guess it is outdated and it does not make sense with zope 3.4 | 21:34 |
| srichter | sm: looks good | 21:36 |
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| sm | lgs: there are newer how-to-set-up docs at http://wiki.zope.org/zope3 | 21:49 |
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| lgs | sm: I've been searching in the wiki for a while, specially in the "developing Zope 3" section | 21:51 |
| lgs | sm: but I couldn't find a doc explaining the current status quo of development procedures | 21:52 |
| sm | did you see the "mortals" section ? | 21:52 |
| lgs | sm: mmm, I think no | 21:52 |
| sm | it's under reference.. http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/ZopeForMereMortals | 21:52 |
| lgs | sm: I see, I'll take a look right now | 21:53 |
| lgs | sm: thanks for the pointer | 21:53 |
| sm | np. your help with docs cleanup is welcome | 21:53 |
| lgs | sm: I am thinking on creating a bug in launchpad and attaching my patches there since I don't have (and dont want right now) commit access | 21:54 |
| lgs | sm: is that ok? | 21:54 |
| sm | I don't see why not | 21:56 |
| sm | what kind of patches ? | 21:56 |
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| lisppaste6 | lgs pasted "patch example" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/59204 | 21:57 |
| lgs | sm: something like that | 21:57 |
| sm | cool | 21:58 |
| lgs | sm: those docs are *exactly* what I was looking for :-) | 21:59 |
| sm | see also the http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/Proposals for larger projects | 21:59 |
| sm | they're good aren't they | 21:59 |
| sm | for now... | 21:59 |
| lgs | sure | 21:59 |
| * sm hears the Clock of Bit Rot ticking.. | 22:00 | |
| sm | TICK! TOCK! ... | 22:00 |
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| J1m | Does anyone know if anyone has done a z3 port of queued catalog? | 22:53 |
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