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| rocky | what's the canonical way to force zc.buildout to pull my egg from an svn repo instead of looking on cheeseshop ? | 02:20 |
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| pcardune | projekt01: just thought I'd let you know, I'm going through the z3c.table documentation and trying to the wording and explanations in different places. | 07:40 |
| projekt01 | pcardune, are you making it new style doc aware? | 07:41 |
| pcardune | projekt01: What do you mean by new style doc aware? | 07:42 |
| projekt01 | like to one you made for z3c.form | 07:42 |
| pcardune | projekt01: not at the moment, first I'm just working on content. | 07:43 |
| pcardune | I want to finish a proper buildout recipe before I go crazy making all of svn.zope.org generate pretty docs | 07:43 |
| projekt01 | that's fine for me, just improve what you think should get better explained in z3c.table | 07:44 |
| pcardune | and I can't do that until the Sphinx people apply my patch (or it will be *very* messy) | 07:44 |
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| pcardune | projekt01: why does batching require sorted columns as well? Can't batching use whatever order it is given implicitly from a call to values()? | 07:49 |
| pcardune | projekt01: I would say that batching is only a problem when combined with sorting | 07:50 |
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| pcardune | projekt01_: did you see my last message? | 07:54 |
| projekt01_ | probably not | 07:54 |
| pcardune | projekt01_: why does batching require sorted columns as well? Can't batching use whatever order it is given implicitly from a call to values()? | 07:56 |
| pcardune | projekt01_: I would say that batching is only a problem when combined with sorting | 07:56 |
| projekt01_ | yes, why do you think? | 07:56 |
| pcardune | Well, if you aren't performing a sort, then there is no process that hits every element in the list, even if you are using batching | 07:59 |
| pcardune | projekt01_: in the z3c.table readme, there is a note that you should watch out for batching with large data sets because the data must always be sorted prior to batching | 07:59 |
| pcardune | this is true, but only when you are using data that isn't already sorted | 08:00 |
| pcardune | if the data is stored presorted, then there should be no problem batching with arbitrarily large data sets. | 08:00 |
| projekt01_ | if you have sorted data, you can override the sort method in the table | 08:00 |
| pcardune | ah, ok | 08:01 |
| projekt01_ | yes, but if a table offers sorting you must sort on that criteria | 08:01 |
| pcardune | projekt01_: so that is the only way to turn batching on, and turn sorting off | 08:01 |
| projekt01_ | just implement your own sort rule, which could do nothing | 08:01 |
| pcardune | ok, I'll mention that pattern when I get to that section. | 08:02 |
| projekt01_ | if the table doesn't offer additional sorting per column then you are fine | 08:02 |
| pcardune | projekt01_: I also have another idea, which is to make the readme use a more concrete example, like files in a folder with a column for name, type, size, etc.? Do you think this is a good idea? | 08:03 |
| projekt01_ | the problem with better sample is that we should not use other patterns which could confuse people. But I'm fine if you have a good idea and like to change it | 08:04 |
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| pcardune | projekt01_: ok. Alternatively I could make these changes in a branch? | 08:06 |
| projekt01_ | no problem, I like any improvement | 08:07 |
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