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regebrogeez.... zc.buildout seems to use it's own buildout as a base for the tests... Hairy stuff...14:40
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goschtlhi is it possible to give an zope.schema.Date fieled a german time format %d.%m.%Y ?17:33
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VladDracgoschtl I know megrok.form installs some z3c widget that is more flexible in accepting dates17:37
goschtlVladDarc: thx i will look on it17:38
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philiKONyeah, has a JS-based calendar17:38
philiKONjust depend on megrok.form and it'll magically work17:38
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smbaijum: http://www.muthukadan.net/docs/zca.html is looking really good! thank you18:12
baijumsm: Welcome :)18:13
* baijum watching http://orgmode.org/GoogleTech.html (off-topic) ...18:13
smfinally an intro to virtualenv & buildout (& zope3) that makes sense18:13
smoh cool, thanks18:15
smbaijum: do you want issue reports as I read ?18:15
baijumsm: Sure18:15
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smin 1.4 you say "First, install zc.buildout using easy_install command.". It might be nice to show that command, like all the rest18:17
smalso "Now you can import zope.interface and zope.component from the new python interpreter inside myve/bin directory: $ ./bin/python" would be even clearer if you showed the import statement18:18
smalso first paragraph: Ian Biking18:19
smthat's all :)18:19
* sm reads on18:19
baijumsm: Ok, will change it18:19
baijumsm: I am leaving now, will be back here after some time (2 hr)18:23
* sm waves18:23
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smat 3.2 I lost track of what you're saying.. but that could be hunger18:33
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sm$ easy_install "zope.component [zcml]" <- weird!18:38
smthis gets pretty involved, but you do call it a "comprehensive guide" not a tutorial..18:40
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smthinking your focus is on the CA itself, I wonder if ch. 7 ZCA usage in Zope should move to an appendix18:41
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smoh you have left channel.. darn18:42
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yotaffhi, using buildout, setuptools 0.7c8 had downloaded, but http://download.zope.org/zope3.4/versions.cfg specify 0.7c719:31
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yotaffwhat is the best solution to bypass this ?19:33
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baijum´╗┐sm: any more suggestions ?19:43
smyes, one sec19:44
sm- at 3.2 I lost track of what you're saying.. but that could be hunger19:45
sm- this gets pretty involved, but you do call it a "comprehensive guide" not a tutorial..19:45
sm- thinking your focus is on the CA itself, I wonder if ch. 7 ZCA usage in Zope should move to an appendix19:45
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smalso, I liked it when in a couple of places you explained how the CA added some complexity and when it's a good idea to use it and when not - maybe you could say more about that right in the intro too19:46
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baijumsm: I will try to change docs based on your suggestions. thanks !20:50
smthanks!20:51
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mgedminany ideas why this cycle of objects cannot be garbage-collected: http://mg.pov.lt./gc-cycle.png ?21:17
mgedminthere are no external references to it21:17
mgedminI don't see any of those objects having a __del__21:17
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mgedminhm that persistent Folder has a refcount of 121:20
mgedminbut no references going to it21:20
benji_thats... strange21:20
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mgedminyay, a refcount bug in a C module21:26
* mgedmin headdesks21:26
mgedminyup, sys.getrefcount(my_folder) == 3, sys.get_referrers(my_folder) returns only my locals() dict from this pdb session21:26
* mgedmin thwacks sccmap from the graphviz suite21:29
mgedminif it hadn't ignored "degenerate" strongly-connected-components of only 1 node by default, I'd have seen this Folder right away21:30
mgedminany known refcount bugs fixed in ZODB after version 3.8.0?21:33
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wolfehmmm21:52
wolfeis the threading mechanism in Zope3 better than 2?21:53
wolfehttp://books.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=623221&cid=2431749321:53
wolfeI find it quite funny someone "outgrown" zope 2 only to convert over to Django21:53
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voyager__hola a todos soy novate en zope322:22
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voyager__lo instale y cree 3 instancias (cambiando los puertos en etc/zope.conf) .... tengo una duda, cuando accedo al Zope Management Interface, como puedo agregar la funcionalidad de mysql?22:23
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vimes656voyager__: este es canal internacional de zope3, hemos abierto uno hace poco en ##zope-es23:13
voyager__vimes656: en este servidor? hago /join zope-es y me tira error23:15
voyager__vimes656: ahi entre23:15
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