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| voyager__ | hi all, i have a problem with zope3 on debian linux.... anybody can i help me? | 04:27 |
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| fcorrea | Is there any obvious reason for say /@@/foo/bar.png not to be same thing as /++resource++foo/bar.png ? | 05:30 |
| fcorrea | I mean, I can access the image through /++resource++foo/bar.png but I can't through /@@/foo/bar.png | 05:31 |
| CSWookie | I thought it was. | 05:33 |
| CSWookie | Not that I like that, but I don't make the rules. | 05:33 |
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| fcorrea | wondering if zopeproject is downloading versions that are incompatible with my current packages. z3c.zrtresource stoped to work all of a sudden | 06:04 |
| fcorrea | AND I can't get my resources to be exposed through /@@ only /++resource++/ | 06:05 |
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| mgedmin | people who complain about pypi's huge package list might be interested in http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/30836 | 16:45 |
| mgedmin | greasemonkey rules | 16:45 |
| projekt01 | mgedmin, great idea! | 16:49 |
| CSWookie | Why would people complain about the huge project list? | 16:50 |
| CSWookie | It's like saying, "Apt's got too many packages" | 16:51 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: when you're logged into pypi | 16:51 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: and you're the owner/maintainer of, say, 100 eggs | 16:51 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: the box on the right hand side doesn't float | 16:51 |
| CSWookie | The list of packages you own. I dig. | 16:51 |
| philiKON | CSWookie: you scroll way down | 16:51 |
| philiKON | :) | 16:51 |
| CSWookie | That is pretty cool. | 16:51 |
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| fcorrea | srichter: yt? | 20:50 |
| srichter | fcorrea: yes | 20:51 |
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| fcorrea | any idea on why a zrt resource can't get served like /@@/foo.css ? | 20:51 |
| fcorrea | I can only reach it through /++resource++foo.css | 20:51 |
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| fcorrea | srichter, I think now I know why z3c.zrtresource wasnt processing. Some kind of conflict with resourceDirectory and zrt maybe | 20:55 |
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| fcorrea | srichter, I will investigate it more later. I mean, I suppose a zrt should be served when accessed as /@@ right? | 20:58 |
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| srichter | fcorrea: yes | 21:03 |
| fcorrea | srichter: right...when I use /@@ it returns a blank page only and checking errors sounds it didn't find it | 21:04 |
| srichter | you have to use it liek /@@/name.css | 21:06 |
| srichter | effectively liek a regular resource | 21:06 |
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| fcorrea | srichter, are you aware of any issue when using it combined with resource directories? | 21:14 |
| srichter | yes | 21:14 |
| srichter | you cannot | 21:14 |
| srichter | basically, you cannot override the resource factories used by resource directory | 21:15 |
| srichter | we could extend the resource directory directive to accept custom factory declarations. | 21:15 |
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| fcorrea | Yep. In my case I have a bunch of css files sitting in the css directory and all off them are ZRT resources | 21:16 |
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| fcorrea | And one of them has a zrt-replace that will replace by /@@/cssdir/foo.css for example and that's not going to work. | 21:17 |
| fcorrea | Well, at least I know why it isn't working. Thanks | 21:17 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: btw, great effort with getting the KGS 3.4 packages up to speed; the Keas engineers thank you :-) | 21:27 |
| srichter | mgedmin: Once you are done, I think we simply release Zope 3.4.0 | 21:27 |
| * mgedmin is still waiting for angry complaints | 21:27 | |
| mgedmin | I'm sure I must've missed something | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | the latest checkin to zope.app.applicationcontrol proves this | 21:28 |
| srichter | I am going to run buildout without "-N" tongiht and let you know | 21:28 |
| mgedmin | I'm thinking of setting up a buildbot or two for the 3.4 KGS | 21:28 |
| srichter | cool | 21:29 |
| mgedmin | there still are quite a few things left I'd like to get into 3.4.0 final | 21:29 |
| mgedmin | e.g. those kgs test failures | 21:29 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: I am very happy that they are even this low ;-) | 21:30 |
| mgedmin | heh | 21:31 |
| srichter | I had to work very hard to get there; I think I started at about 60-70 failures | 21:31 |
| srichter | some of the problems are also due to test cleanups not happening, because they pass in isolation | 21:31 |
| mgedmin | any ideas why zope.release/test/bin/test ends up testing my /usr/lib/python2.X/site-packages? | 21:33 |
| srichter | mmh, no | 21:35 |
| srichter | you can check the buildout.cfg file, but it should not contain anything weird | 21:36 |
| mgedmin | maybe buildout finds something from the dependencies in my system python | 21:37 |
| srichter | but it should only test the listed eggs not its deps | 21:39 |
| mgedmin | it's trying to test the lxml egg | 21:39 |
| mgedmin | I'm pretty sure I have python-lxml installed in my system python | 21:40 |
| * mgedmin tests the theory | 21:40 | |
| srichter | ok | 21:40 |
| mgedmin | yes, if I remove lxml from the eggs to test, I no longer see --test-path /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages | 21:41 |
| srichter | ok | 21:42 |
| mgedmin | hm, what to do with z3c.form? | 21:45 |
| mgedmin | there were quite a few bugfixes since 1.8.0, including the python2.5-compatibility fix | 21:45 |
| mgedmin | but also a couple of new features | 21:45 |
| mgedmin | are new features acceptable in KGS updates? | 21:45 |
| mgedmin | wait, the features happened after the 1.8.2 release | 21:46 |
| mgedmin | I think there were only bugfixes between from 1.8.0 to 1.8.2 | 21:47 |
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| mgedmin | hm, updating z3c.form to 1.8.2 breaks z3c.formjs 0.3.0 | 21:51 |
| srichter | that could be; note that there are several changes in z3c.formjs/trunk that fix that | 21:52 |
| srichter | actually, Paul just confirmed that | 21:53 |
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| srichter | mgedmin: btw, in z3c.testcoverage d we want to explicitely ignore testing.py modules and testing/ packages from the report? | 21:54 |
| * mgedmin sighs watching the svn external updates slowly scroll by | 21:54 | |
| mgedmin | srichter: no, I don't think so | 21:55 |
| srichter | ok, so you tell me I have to write a test for my testing.py? :-) | 21:55 |
| mgedmin | yes :) | 21:55 |
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| mgedmin | at least I thought so at one time | 21:55 |
| srichter | ok | 21:55 |
| mgedmin | foo.package.testing is part of your public API | 21:55 |
| mgedmin | "if you want to use this package in your tests, here are helpful stubs/setup/teardown functions for you" | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | API should be tested | 21:56 |
| mgedmin | I haven't followed that idea religiously in my own code yet :/ | 21:56 |
| * mgedmin is done for today | 21:57 | |
| srichter | he he | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | about z3c.coverage: there ought to be a buildout recipe | 21:58 |
| srichter | good work | 21:58 |
| mgedmin | and options for which patterns you want to include/exclude | 21:58 |
| srichter | I am really looking forward to this final Zoep 3.4.0 release | 21:58 |
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| mgedmin | with sane defaults probably excluding testing.py, to make it more useful for current zope code | 21:58 |
| srichter | mgedmin: here is what I use: | 21:58 |
| srichter | [coverage-test] | 21:58 |
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| srichter | recipe = zc.recipe.testrunner | 21:59 |
| srichter | eggs = keas.rule [test] | 21:59 |
| srichter | defaults = ['--coverage', '../../coverage'] | 21:59 |
| srichter | [coverage-report] | 21:59 |
| srichter | recipe = zc.recipe.egg | 21:59 |
| srichter | eggs = z3c.coverage | 21:59 |
| srichter | scripts = coverage=coverage-report | 21:59 |
| srichter | arguments = ('coverage', 'coverage/report') | 21:59 |
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| srichter | it's not elegant, but creates scripts that are runnable without arguments | 21:59 |
| mgedmin | sane | 22:00 |
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| Tv | Hi guys. Will I be horribly abused if I ask about zc.buildout here?-) Anyone have nice tips for multi-account products, like A can write but B can only read, different software running as different users. | 22:21 |
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| srichter | Tv: no | 22:32 |
| Tv | i want to create user accounts etc | 22:32 |
| Tv | i'd love to use buildout, if it's applicable | 22:32 |
| srichter | yeah, you can use a recipe that uses random Python scripts | 22:32 |
| Tv | i can see how to do "everything runs as one account" setups easily | 22:33 |
| Tv | but i don't see how to coordinate stuff between needing root / not wanting root for everything | 22:33 |
| Tv | or things like "stop service, wait until it's down, only *then* upgrade the egg" | 22:33 |
| srichter | oh, I see | 22:33 |
| srichter | the framework will not help | 22:35 |
| srichter | but you can write a script that switches users | 22:35 |
| srichter | look at http://svn.zope.org/z3c.recipe.runscript/?rev=89064 | 22:35 |
| Tv | oh i can write the recipes all right, i just don't "see the big pic" | 22:35 |
| srichter | it provides a recipe to run a script that you wrote | 22:35 |
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| Tv | i'm starting to feel like i want one runs-as-root buildout and a buildout per account user, or something | 22:36 |
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| fcorrea_ | is there a convenient method to find out the application url to be used in a template for example? | 22:55 |
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| mgedmin | fcorrea_: what's the application url? | 22:57 |
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| mgedmin | some_object/@@absolute_url is the answer | 22:58 |
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| mgedmin | where some_object is whatever you consider to be your application root | 22:58 |
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| fcorrea_ | mgedmin, that's what i mean. the url of the application root | 23:04 |
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| mgedmin | the zope 3 root folder? | 23:09 |
| mgedmin | or the current site? | 23:09 |
| mgedmin | anyway, I don | 23:09 |
| mgedmin | anyway, I don't believe there are predefined shortcuts to do that in page templates | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | except for resources | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | tal:attributes="href context/++resource++foo.png" will construct an absolute url right for the current site | 23:10 |
| mgedmin | with /@@/foo.png appended | 23:10 |
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| fcorrea_ | mgedmin, for the nearest site. I know context/++resource++ contructs that url, but I need to create absolute links in a page and I need to get this contruct from somewhere. | 23:15 |
| fcorrea_ | mgedmin, I wrote a application_url view for the app for now. That will get the site manager and compute its url with IAbsoluteURL | 23:15 |
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| fcorrea_ | mgedmin, how do you usually get the root app for a application? I am getting the site manager and then i just use its __parent__ attribute. Is there any other way to do it better? | 23:40 |
| mgedmin | getSite() should work | 23:40 |
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| fcorrea_ | mgedmin, heh...didn't know that *obvious* one | 23:45 |
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| fcorrea_ | mmm, a LocalSiteManager doesn't have getSite() though | 23:58 |
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