IRC log of #zope3-dev for Tuesday, 2009-04-07

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regebroOK, so zope.interface.implements already also comes as a decorator, called @implementer.14:37
regebroBut what should zope.interface.implementsOnly be called as a decorator?14:37
regebroI really don'14:37
regebrodon't like @implementerOnly. No grammar. :-D14:38
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mgedminregebro: how about @implementer(only=ISomeFoo)14:45
mgedminalso accept @implementer(only=[ISomeFoo, ISomeBar]) if you go that way14:45
regebromgedmin: Right, and that means different syntax from @implementer(ISomeFoo, ISomeBar) so I don14:46
regebrodon't like that either...14:46
mgedmin@implementerOfOnly(ISomeFoo, ISomeBar) ?14:46
mgedminyuck14:46
regebroYeah, but I did think about @implementor_of(IFoo).14:47
regebroBut the difference between implementor and implementor_of is too subtle...14:47
regebromgedmin: And so on. :) Tricky stuff.14:47
regebro@implementor_of_only is a candidate.14:48
regebroIt doens't matter that it's long, it's not used much. :)14:48
mgedminnames_with_underlines_break_existing_zope_conventions14:48
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regebromgedmin: namesWithCapitalsIsUnpythonic. :)15:20
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mgedminregebro: true, but local consistency beats global consistency16:22
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suptonzope.schema question: how does one prevent recursive validation when one has Object fields that create circular references?  I have a case with two objects have parent/child relationship and references both ways, I get infinite recursion on validation.23:26
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mgedminwhee23:30
mgedminI once read an insightful blog post about how "validation" is meaningless without context23:30
mgedminyou usually want different kinds of validations for different use cases23:30
mgedminanyway, I would suggest that you relax your validation constraints23:31
mgedminand perhaps do the validation later23:31
mgedminhow exactly does your code look? (hint: pastebin)23:32
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suptonmgedmin: uses zope.schema.fieldproperty.FieldProperty, will paste trivial example in a minute23:35
mgedminahh23:36
mgedminpaste the interfaces please23:36
lisppaste6supton pasted "crazy recursive validation" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/7820023:46
suptonstrangely, relaxing IContainerish['children'].value_type.schema to Interface prevents this23:47
suptonwhich leads me to think this is some crazy edge case23:47
suptonand I just want to short-circuit validation somewhere23:47
suptonlikely on the parent field, maybe make that an Attribute on the interface instead of a schema field23:48
supton(or not use FieldProperty)23:48
suptonthe latter seems cleaner, since I should not have to change the interface just to tweak implementation bevavior23:48
suptonbehavior23:48
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mgedminI believe Interface.providedBy(None) is True23:59
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